God's Presence on Earth through His Spirit (Scripture & Photos Examined)

@Patches,

Patches wrote:

Those photographs are truly of the Holy Spirit and are not photoshopped. I speak the truth. I am not a liar. Yes, it is true that the human brain is very complicated and man does not understand it well. I was not hallucinating and never have I claimed to be a chosen prophet.

I am not "selling" anything. I am merely here to speak truth.

At best, you are here to speak what you consider to be the truth.

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@Frank Apisa,

God, Jesus, the Holy Spirits and angels are all truths in the Holy Bible. I have witnessed them all. And no amount of unknowingness is going to keep me from giving testimony.

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@Patches,

Patches wrote:

God, Jesus, the Holy Spirits and angels are all truths in the Holy Bible. I have witnessed them all. And no amount of unknowingness is going to keep me from giving testimony.

Okay...give testimony!

The're gonna love ya here!

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@Frank Apisa,

Correction: I am here to speak what I know to be true and you are here to speak what "you consider" to be the truth.

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@InfraBlue,

InfraBlue wrote:

The world hell itself derives from Old English hel and helle which refer to the netherworld.

Which, in turn, derives from the Hebrew sheol, which means mankind's common grave (of both the righteous and unrighteous)

BTW, if you told someone to go to hell in the King James' years, he would have retired to his root cellar. The similarities between hell and hole are not coincidental.

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@Patches,

Patches wrote:

God, Jesus, the Holy Spirits and angels are all truths in the Holy Bible.

Assuming that you meant to type 'holy spirit' as singular, you are correct.

Patches wrote:

I have witnessed them all.

This would be false, based on Paul's words at 1 Corinthians 13: 10 "when what is complete comes, what is partial will be done away with" There have been no direct communications between God and man since the completion of the Bible - John's last writings, c. 100 C.E.

Patches wrote:

And no amount of unknowingness is going to keep me from giving testimony.

Your personal testimony, therefore, must come from another source. That could be why you meet with well considered opposition from naysayers and believers alike.

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@Setanta,

Thanks for the insight.

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@izzythepush,

neologist wrote:

I was born and raised in the religion of the Crusades, of Torquemada, of Cardinal Pacelli's concordat with WWII Germany.

izzythepush wrote:

I bet it's not all good though.

You're right. I left out my personal experiences.

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@Patches,

Patches wrote:

Correction: I am here to speak what I know to be true and you are here to speak what "you consider" to be the truth.

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@Frank Apisa,

C'mon, Frank. Don't be so hard on Patch. I think he means well. He just doesn't understand the Bible.

You can pick on me all you want, however.

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@Patches,

Patches wrote:

Those photographs are truly of the Holy Spirit and are not photoshopped. I speak the truth. I am not a liar.

You believe you're speaking the truth, but you're not.

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@Setanta,

Likewise, those who pretend to admonish those playing the expert certainly should flail at straw men in regard to their assumptions about assertions made about Hel being anything other than the, or a, netherworld within a body of mythologies, let alone a place of punishment or torment. And certainly, those pretenders should chase their own tails in their persnickety pursuit of the details thereof, e.g. only to the extent that Nilfheim and Muspellheim lie beneath the roots of Yggrsaill can they be considered netherworlds, but yet, Hel are halls in Nilfheim where certain dead are sent. I'm sure these pretenders will hasten to fastidiously fill any superfluous details regarding the general ideas behind the terms being discussed.

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@Frank Apisa,

Frank Apisa wrote:

Essentially, the god denied them the necessary knowledge to know right from wrong...good from evil...

...and then when they did something the god considered wrong and evil...

...the god punished them and all the rest of humankind for all of eternity.

The god and the story are a joke, Neo.

You would like to believe that, Frank, for what ever reason only you would know.
But Moses did not write it so. You may recall that Moses, in Deuteronomy 32:4 wrote that God was "perfect" and his activity was "perfect" That could only imply that Adam and Eve were perfect as created and had no need for the knowledge of good and bad. Their inbred nature was to do only good without ruminating over the alternatives. So, the fruit represented their choice of whether or not to accept God's direction. It's really quite simple, Frank. They chose to sin.

At least, according to Moses . . . .

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@Smileyrius,

I am not suggesting you read any bible translation that has not been translated specifically to support dogma.

If you're really interested learn to read the languages in which the extant manuscripts were written.

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@neologist,

neologist wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:
Essentially, the god denied them the necessary knowledge to know right from wrong...good from evil...

...and then when they did something the god considered wrong and evil...

...the god punished them and all the rest of humankind for all of eternity.

The god and the story are a joke, Neo.
You would like to believe that, Frank, for what ever reason only you would know.
But Moses did not write it so. You may recall that Moses, in Deuteronomy 32:4 wrote that God was "perfect" and his activity was "perfect" That could only imply that Adam and Eve were perfect as created and had no need for the knowledge of good and bad. Their inbred nature was to do only good without ruminating over the alternatives. So, the fruit represented their choice of whether or not to accept God's direction. It's really quite simple, Frank. They chose to sin.

At least, according to Moses . . . .

Neo...long before Moses came along...there was this guy called GOD in the Bible...and this GOD said that Adam and Eve did not know the difference between good and evil...between right and wrong.

And he did not want them to know that difference, because the GOD thought that would make the couple into gods. According to the GOD who was in the Bible long before that Moses guy...knowing the difference between right and wrong...between good and evil...was something reserved for the gods.

Who do you want to go with...the GOD of the Bible...or this Moses?

Wake the hell up.

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@Patches,

Ive got some photos from Jesus High SChool yearbook.

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Neo...have you ever wondered why the GOD didn't tell Adam that he should not eat from the tree of eternal life...that was also within reach?

Why do you suppose the people who made up this story didn't have that as part of the story?

Perhaps because they knew humans were not immortal?

What do you suppose would have happened if Adam and Eve had simply eaten of the tree of life...rather than tree of knowledge?

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@neologist,

neologist wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:
The world hell itself derives from Old English hel and helle which refer to the netherworld.
Which, in turn, derives from the Hebrew sheol, which means mankind's common grave (of both the righteous and unrighteous)

Hel and helle are derived from early Germanic languages, probably Old Norse. They are not Semitic words.

neologist wrote:

BTW, if you told someone to go to hell in the King James' years, he would have retired to his root cellar. The similarities between hell and hole are not coincidental.

Ok.

The bible was first translated into Modern English about a hundred years before the King James Version.

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@Frank Apisa,

I'm sorry to be the one to have to inform you, but the joke is on you Frank, not I.

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