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God's Presence on Earth through His Spirit (Scripture & Photos Examined)

 
 
MWal
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2014 10:27 am
@Smileyrius,
It's either God or hell, they can not simultaneously exist. God must be all logical and reasonable or he lacks braun and by nature is not God. If God is all reasonable all people's will submit and sin will be not. No hell.
neologist
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2014 10:36 am
@Patches,
So, where is the netherworld mentioned in the bible?
neologist
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2014 10:39 am
@Frank Apisa,
You seem serious to state your point, Frank.
Are you afraid you might be ignored?

I won't ignore you Frank. I promise.
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neologist
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2014 10:40 am
@MWal,
Why?
Patches
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2014 10:51 am
@Smileyrius,
They are all one and the same hell Smiley. Why most you complicate things?
Patches
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2014 10:53 am
@neologist,
It is part of the Catholic faith. You needn't call the invisible spirit world here on earth the Netherworld if you wish.
MWal
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2014 10:55 am
@neologist,
God is Love or he isn't the champion of life and virtue. Why would he create evil? Obviously it would just be left out to die, completely irrational to perfect mind. It only exist as possesed knowledge, errrr ignorance. But a passive exorcism and download will set our boys straight. I call ignorance satan, and knowledge Lucifer.

We love God and he loves us back or he isn't God. All will submit God included. Love and peace
neologist
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2014 11:05 am
@Patches,
An apt symbolic description of Catholicism. But like Catholicism in general, bearing little resemblance to truth.
neologist
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2014 11:09 am
@MWal,
You have a portion of it right. God did not create Satan to sin. Satan chose to sin. As did Adam and Eve.
MWal
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2014 11:25 am
@neologist,
I don't see how anyone can do away from a God and from Love. It's friggin Love. Oh and what about the infamous good things of Heaven. How do you turn from that? Anyone wants good things in their life. Be it sex, or toys good things is good things. Obviously they don't know what they're missing out on. Knowledge wouldn't sin, he would be on his best behavior.

The choice to hate, or go to hell is uninformed and irrational.
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Patches
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2014 11:34 am
@neologist,
Who are you to make such judgments? I highly doubt that you know all truth and understand all Catholic theology.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2014 01:50 pm
@neologist,
neologist wrote:

You have a portion of it right. God did not create Satan to sin. Satan chose to sin. As did Adam and Eve.


Adam and Eve did NOT "chose to sin."

In the fable, they got caught up in a sting by your god.

Essentially, the god denied them the necessary knowledge to know right from wrong...good from evil...

...and then when they did something the god considered wrong and evil...

...the god punished them and all the rest of humankind for all of eternity.

The god and the story are a joke, Neo.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2014 01:51 pm
@neologist,
neologist wrote:

An apt symbolic description of Catholicism. But like Catholicism in general, bearing little resemblance to truth.


Sorta like your religion in that!
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MWal
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2014 02:49 pm
@Frank Apisa,
No its knowledge of evil. The darks arts. It's like premeditating a murder.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2014 02:52 pm
@MWal,
MWal wrote:

No its knowledge of evil. The darks arts. It's like premeditating a murder.


Whatever are you blubbering about, M?
MWal
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2014 02:58 pm
@Frank Apisa,
#Turning other cheek
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2014 03:06 pm
@MWal,
MWal wrote:

#Turning other cheek


Whatever are you blubbering about, M?
Smileyrius
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2014 03:26 pm
@Patches,
I apologise Patch, it was not my intention to make things complicated, but might I ask you, do you trust the bible?
Alqaholic
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2014 03:33 pm
@Patches,
If you've played Minecraft, there is a place called the nether, and the biome of this place is labelled hell, naturally. I have yet to find Lucifer there, but there are these spirits called Ghasts who rain down terror whilst I frolic there.

Just sayin'
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2014 04:17 pm
@Smileyrius,
Smileyrius wrote:

Which Hell do you suppose would he reside over? of the words rendered Hell in the king james version you have 3 original translations, two of which were nouns and one was a verb,

You have Sheol (hebrew) / Hades (Greek), the common grave into which both the unrighteous and the righteous go

Or perhaps you mean Gehenna, the valley outside of Jerusalem which burned with sulphur, it was known to the locals as a place to which unwanted rubbish along with the bodies of criminals deemed undeserving of a proper burial would tossed out to be consumed.

Tartaroo on the other hand which is often mistranslated as Tartarus, is a verb, that is, the process of being imprisoned, restrained, degraded, etc. Tartarus was a place in Hellenistic mythology and had no place in early Christian teachings. The modern day imagery and description of Hell appears to be derived from Tartarus, which has no mention in scripture, short of a number of doctrinally led mistranslations

You're reading straight out of Neologist's tortured definition playbook, Smiley.

Hades is the netherworld and Tartarus is a place in the underworld where the wicked go to to be tormented. Tararoo means to be thrown into Tartarus.

Instead of fitting your dogma around what's actually written, you all twist the meaning out of what's written to fit your dogma.
 

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