So let me get this straight... Cop pulls kid over, the kid starts to agrue with the cop and refuses to comply with the officers requests and demands. The cops warns him many times that failure to comply with lead to his arrest. After threatening to taser the kid, he finally gets out but then continues to ignore the officer. After taking his phone from him, the kid starts to get up from the ground and the cop tasers him. In response to being tasered, the kid attacks the cop, and is shot and killed in the process?
I'm interested to find out how the cop was in the wrong on this? The smart mouth kid should have just done what he was asked and none of this would have happened.
There is no situation in the world where a cop should have to shoot someone when they pulled them over for flashing their lights. None. Zippo, Nada.
The cop is responsible for de-escalating situations, not making them more tense. The cop is supposed to be the professional. He should be brought up on charges for murder.
There is no situation in the world where a cop should have to shoot someone when they pulled them over for flashing their lights. None. Zippo, Nada.
The cop is responsible for de-escalating situations, not making them more tense. The cop is supposed to be the professional. He should be brought up on charges for murder.
You are insane as the "kid" is completely responsible for his actions and in the end his own death.
If anyone else bear any blame it is his parents for not teaching him to act as a reasonable citizen.
Police withhold videos despite vows of transparency
Autumn Steele and her husband, Gabriel, were fighting again, so he called 911. A police officer sped to their home, pulled out his gun and then — frightened by the family dog — opened fire, killing Autumn with a bullet to her chest.
Since the Jan. 6 shooting, Steele’s family has battled police in Burlington, Iowa, to see 28 minutes of body camera video recorded by the two officers who responded that day. Police have declared the videos confidential, saying the shooting was tragic but reasonable, given that the dog “attacked.” State investigators have released a 12-second clip from the videos, but Steele’s relatives say it raises more questions than it answers.
“I deserve to know what happened to my daughter. The public deserves to know,” said Steele’s mother, Gail Colbert. “How can they keep this from us?”
*Nationwide, police have shot and killed 760 people since January, according to a Washington Post database tracking every fatal shooting. Of those, The Post has found 49 incidents captured by body camera, or about 6 percent.
Just 21 of those videos — less than half — have been publicly released. And in several of those cases, the footage, as in Burlington, was severely cut or otherwise edited.
*What point is there of even doing this if they are going to be treated this way? Why even spend the money on these cameras?” said Burlington Mayor Shane McCampbell, who has called on police to release video of the Steele shooting. He noted that police promised greater openness last year when they petitioned the city to buy body cameras.
If the videos “are going to be a secret, no one is being held accountable,” McCampbell said. “And that was the point.”
There is no situation in the world where a cop should have to shoot someone when they pulled them over for flashing their lights. None. Zippo, Nada.
The cop is responsible for de-escalating situations, not making them more tense. The cop is supposed to be the professional. He should be brought up on charges for murder.
You are insane as the "kid" is completely responsible for his actions and in the end his own death.
If anyone else bear any blame it is his parents for not teaching him to act as a reasonable citizen.
Reasonable citizens have the same rights as unreasonable citizens. The cop is responsible for everything that happens at a traffic stop or any other interaction with the public. Being a jerk to a police officer is not a death sentence. This cop escalated the interaction after baiting the driver with his head lights. There is ZERO reason for this kid to be dead other then the officer murdering him.
Sorry but there is zero justification to attacked a police officer and when you do you are placing his life at risk as there is always at least one firearm at the scene.
No tear for the idiot of any kind and even police officers have a right to go home at the end of the day.
I am sure you would love living in a society where there is no police officers as no one in his or her right mind would take the job under the kinds of rules you wish to imposed at any possible salary.
This cop escalated the interaction after baiting the driver with his head lights.
Wow, that is quite the claim. The kid wasn't shot because he flashed his lights at the cop, he was shot because he was able to attack the cop AFTER being tasered.
I am not familiar with the event that you guys are discussing. Was he shot because he was merely able to attack the cop after being tasered, or was he shot because he did attack the cop after being tasered?
The video from the LEO cam, shoes he tasered the kid, and he emeditly came after the cop. The rest of the footage is obsecured but you can hear the sounds of a fight, and then maybe the first shots going off. I don't know if the full footage was released or if they only released footage up to the shots being fired.
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McGentrix
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Tue 20 Oct, 2015 01:50 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
I am not familiar with the event that you guys are discussing. Was he shot because he was merely able to attack the cop after being tasered, or was he shot because he did attack the cop after being tasered?
He was shot for non-compliance to a cop. A 5 minute traffic stop that ended in murder.
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McGentrix
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Tue 20 Oct, 2015 01:53 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
Sorry but there is zero justification to attacked a police officer and when you do you are placing his life at risk as there is always at least one firearm at the scene.
No tear for the idiot of any kind and even police officers have a right to go home at the end of the day.
I am sure you would love living in a society where there is no police officers as no one in his or her right mind would take the job under the kinds of rules you wish to imposed at any possible salary.
Cops are not above the law. They need to follow the same laws that we all do. I don't see how cops (and most of them do) can't abide by that. Why would I want to live with no cops? That would be retarded. I just want to have cops that know and obey the same laws we all do. There is no special rules for cops and citizens.
In this instance, the kid had no weapons and the cop escalated to a point where the kid feared for his life. Rightly so it would seem as the cop ended it for him.
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Tue 20 Oct, 2015 01:53 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
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Police withhold videos despite vows of transparency
That sounds familiar. And if it is good enough for the WH, it is good enough for the police.
This cop escalated the interaction after baiting the driver with his head lights.
Wow, that is quite the claim. The kid wasn't shot because he flashed his lights at the cop, he was shot because he was able to attack the cop AFTER being tasered.
The cop is on record as to have pulled over 3 other drivers that night for flashing him their high beams. The cop knew his lights were high but he used that for a reason to pull over motorists.
Indeed. He admitted as much. You will also notice that no one else had an issue with it but the 17 year old kid who had an attitude with the cop from the get go.
Do not interpret this to mean he deserved to die because that is not the intent.
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bobsal u1553115
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Wed 21 Oct, 2015 06:13 pm
@coldjoint,
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That sounds familiar. And if it is good enough for the WH, it is good enough for the police.
Are you fluent in any other language than gibberish?
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bobsal u1553115
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Wed 21 Oct, 2015 06:14 pm
@McGentrix,
You're confusing the little geek with facts. That's not very fair.
