The Day Ferguson Cops Were Caught in a Bloody Lie

So Bob I went a read through the last few pages... It seems you were the one being nasty and out of line. If you think I was out of line, you are going to have to point it out.

It started when you could no longer discredit what I was saying. Picking at my past as if I was lying and making things up. Since you doubt me, I will have to doubt you from now on. I've had no reason to lie and haven't lied.

We have some problems with gang members but not to the same extent because we took the radical step of not arming them to the teeth.

I had some fun with your logic about how your hanging on the corner makes you an expert enough on urban youth to tell us to not even bother counterdicting you, and you started personal attacks. If you think thats equal treatment, I've been wrong about you - you are as bad as carpfart, oralliar, BillRM, nononono.

Man Peacefully Walking During MLK Day Rally Blasted with Pepper Spray by Cop

By Jay Syrmopoulos on January 29, 2015
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“The pain that shot through my face only lasted so long, but the painful memory is something that I don’t know when will leave me or my family.”

Seattle, Wash. – The city of Seattle is being sued by Jesse Hagopian after he was pepper sprayed by police while leaving a peaceful Martin Luther King Jr. Day rally and march on Jan. 19.

The suit claims that police lacked cause to douse him with pepper spray shortly after giving a speech at the rally discussing how “black lives matter,” and seeks $500,000 in damages.

According to the Seattle Times,

Jesse Hagopian, a history teacher who gave a speech during the event, says in the claim that as he began to head home in the afternoon to celebrate his 2-year-old son’s birthday, he was walking on the sidewalk in the South Lake Union area talking to his mother on the phone when the officer sprayed him.

During the press conference, Hagopian’s attorney, James Bible, said Hagopian was pepper-sprayed “irrationally” with “No provocation and no reason,” Bible said, characterizing the officer’s assault on innocent citizens as a challenge to free speech.

The video of the incident shows a few officers, including the one that sprayed Hagopian, standing at a police barricade barking orders at the few peaceful demonstrators.

Officers had set up a bicycle barricade to block the march, but some people walked through the blockade, Hagopian did not.

The video clearly shows Hagopian come walking along calmly, minding his own business and talking on his cell phone, as you hear the officer, in typical jackboot thug fashion shout, “Stand back! Stand back!”

Out of nowhere the officer blasts Hagopian with the pepper spray, hitting him in the face.

“I felt the piercing pain shoot through my eye, my eardrum and my nostril, all over my cheek and face,” said Hagopian, according to Komo News. “I yelled out. My mom was in distress as she heard me yell.”

Seattle Police Chief Kathleen O’Toole said Wednesday she couldn’t comment on Hagopian’s claim because it is a legal matter.

“(Jesse) was pepper sprayed irrationally by a police officer – no provocation and no reason,” said Bible. “We view this as a challenge to free speech.”

Seattle Mayor Ed Murray weighed in, in an emailed statement stating,

“We have worked to create and implement a comprehensive and transparent police accountability system that will be the most robust in the nation. Under the accountability system that we’ve set up, the uses of force that occurred during the MLK protests are currently under review and being investigated.”

As the old adage goes, a picture is truly worth a thousand words. The utter contempt some cops show for citizens was on full display for the world to see in this still shot of the heinous assault by officer.

image: http://tftppull.freethoughtllc.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Jess-Hagopian.png
Jess-Hagopian

According to Hagopian, the most difficult part isn’t the physical pain that was inflicted upon him:

“The pain that shot through my face only lasted so long, but the painful memory is something that I don’t know when will leave me or my family.”

The incident was captured on video and uploaded to YouTube Wednesday, the same day Hagopian’s attorney filed a claim against the city.

Jay Syrmopoulos is an investigative journalist, freethinker, researcher, and ardent opponent of authoritarianism. He is currently a graduate student at University of Denver pursuing a masters in Global Affairs. Jay’s work has previously been published on BenSwann.com and WeAreChange.org. You can follow him on Twitter @sirmetropolis, on Facebook at Sir Metropolis and now on tsu.

Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/man-peacefully-walking-mlk-day-rally-blasted-pepper-spray-cop/#yOrTELdPqDbRYvRb.99

I seriously doubt those who belongs in gangs go into legitimate gun stores or shows and register their guns which would lead any crime committed back to them. More than likely they get them in car trunks or such like.

Exactly right. Bad cops do what they do expecting to get away with it cameras or no cameras. They reflect society with an added weight of reflecting those in charge in society. They aren't agents of change.

They are after all from the same segment of humanity.

True, but in UK guns are much, much more difficult to pick up on the streets than here.

I would have no idea where to get hold of a gun. Even possessing one gets you a mandatory 5 year prison sentence, and if it's been used, and you're not forthcoming about who used it you can expect to go down for longer.

So ya'll are not even allowed to hunt or other gun sports?

Why would I want to go hunting? Rifles and shotguns are licensed, with licenses being issued by the police, there has been calls to tighten up the procedure after police gave rifles back to people who shouldn't have them.

Voted down again by those who support shooting up schools, people get so upset when you say killing children is wrong.

In their minds, it's a war, like WWII.

When did children become the Nazis?

For the sake of openness I use and own firearms.

I also believe in registration and background checks and measures like: anyone with a peace order or restraining order or any record of arrest for domestic violence should be disarmed with a search warrant and police.

Sounds reasonable, and I agree.

When your police are routinely armed they become trigger happy, and when you have a society awash with firearms you have gangs out of control. Both of these problems have been identified on this thread, it's not rocket science.

I didn't vote you down. I happen to believe in gun control and think we in our country should have more of it.

I merely get a little tired of your superior attitude on most issues in regards to the UK and the US. I don't find it helpful or attractive.

So you are allowed to own guns, you just have to get your licensee from the police or if caught you get a mandatory five years in prison?

In any event, criminals such as gangs do not obey any laws or restrictions so it wouldn't matter how many are put in place. We need better control over gun runners who sale guns to criminals.


However, not everyone starts out as a criminal or shoots up a school or mall or some such, they have other issues which needs to be considered when getting a license.

Also I don't see a need whats so ever for guns with the capacity to shoot down a whole room full of people in a matter of minutes or seconds. We (in our country) also need tighter control over guns shows and private sales and things like that. These kinds of things are what I mean when I say we need better control and restriction in our country.

I never thought you did vote me down. Pistols are illegal over here. I get sick of all the handwringing every time a school gets shot up when none of you are prepared to do anything about it.

NRA has a hold on half or a little over a half of our politicians, hope springs eternal and someday, that hold will loosen up or disappear altogether. But I hear you, I get sick of it too.