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The Day Ferguson Cops Were Caught in a Bloody Lie

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 28 Jan, 2015 06:52 pm
@Baldimo,
No, you're not the mean and nasty one; you happen to be the dumbest on this planet.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 28 Jan, 2015 07:07 pm
@izzythepush,
Putting all cards on the table: its not legal here. But ....

I also remember Afghani sheesh with gold foil seals on the ki's. Wonderful stuff - $75/oz - or so I have been led to believe. I don't think the Taliban is anything like Pablo Escabar. Kabul is one of those places I wanted to go to in the '60s.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 28 Jan, 2015 07:14 pm
@korkamann,
Its that "its all one thing or another" attitude that makes it so easy for them to deny any sort of a problem. "Sure, some cops are bad, it doesn't mean they all are!" The question isn't "are all cops bad or not". Its about a significant minority of cops being bad and how many people do they have to needlessly, mindlessly kill before society cleans out and repairs its police system.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 28 Jan, 2015 07:18 pm
@Baldimo,
Quote:
Re: bobsal u1553115 (Post 5875844)
Mean and nasty, you will have to point out were I was the mean and nasty one? Parados opinion doens't mean fuckall to me. He is rude and started the mud slinging then you decided to join in without anything to add but to pick at what I have shared.

You're an asshole Bob. It seems the only opinions and experience that counts around here is those you agree with. I have a different opinion and take on things and you insult and put down my experience because it doesn't conform to your liberal take on things.

At least I have the balls to talk about my past and what I have experienced. I don't waste my time printing others people's words, pictures or lame ass meme's. If all your going to do is pick, just block me. Your opinion is starting to mean fuckall.



That was really classy. I admire you for ability to adhere to your alleged values and for just plain ol' keeping it real.

I said it before: you're just carpfart on Ritilin.

You must have missed your last dosage. Double up.

Shame on you.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Wed 28 Jan, 2015 07:24 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
That was only after it was claimed I was being nasty. I notice you didn't back up your rant. Goodnight Bob.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Wed 28 Jan, 2015 07:25 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Ok CI. You're right. I'm the dumbest person on the planet.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 28 Jan, 2015 07:29 pm
@korkamann,
Baldino writes this in his response:

Quote:
You better recheck those stats.


Cuz if you don't and also come to his conclussion - because he had gangbanger friends while he went a "ritzy" military school on scholarship because he was poor but his grandfather was a I forget what when he was born 41 years ago - he knows better than anyone else how black kids are so we all need to shut up and listen to him or he'll send you an unprovoked post like this:

"@bobsal u1553115,
Mean and nasty, you will have to point out were I was the mean and nasty one? Parados opinion doens't mean fuckall to me. He is rude and started the mud slinging then you decided to join in without anything to add but to pick at what I have shared.

You're an asshole Bob. It seems the only opinions and experience that counts around here is those you agree with. I have a different opinion and take on things and you insult and put down my experience because it doesn't conform to your liberal take on things.

At least I have the balls to talk about my past and what I have experienced. I don't waste my time printing others people's words, pictures or lame ass meme's. If all your going to do is pick, just block me. Your opinion is starting to mean fuckall. "


Don't take my word for it, just read the previous two or three pages.

This is how he hijacks and derails OPs.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 28 Jan, 2015 07:34 pm
@Baldimo,
Your attention span too short to read the last two or three pages?

This last three or so posts of yours is so far out of line its not even funny. I expect this crap from carpfart, BillRM, oralliar, but not you.

You're so ******* wrong this time.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 28 Jan, 2015 07:57 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
Your attention span too short to read the last two or three pages?


You don't read Spam, you fry it. Just like your brain. I can hear the sizzle over here.http://www.doomjunkie.com/images/smilies/snrmaajt.gif
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jan, 2015 02:36 am
@bobsal u1553115,
The Afghan stuff wasn't available for a very long time, now it's everywhere, and it's a lot stronger than the Moroccan stuff that's usually about. The Taliban do some really good heroin too.

Baldimo is right about drugs laws being counterproductive. Although he probably doesn't see how much the arms dealers make out of it all.

bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jan, 2015 05:47 am
@coldjoint,
That sizzle, dipshit, is the few remaining brain cell youown frying. But I am glad you pointed out baldino's last few posts are crap posts.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jan, 2015 05:50 am
@izzythepush,
Gunrunners also make fortunes with watered down and bootleg baby formula. If there's an illegal dollar to be made, they'll make it. Criminalizing drugs is what makes it a part of the arms trade.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jan, 2015 05:51 am
St. Louis City Hall Meeting Reportedly Interrupted By Brawl
Source: Huffington Post

Posted: 01/28/2015 9:37 pm EST

A brawl broke out at a St. Louis City Hall meeting on the implementation of a civilian oversight board of the police department on Wednesday night, according to reports from the scene.

While it was not immediately clear who started the fight or for what reason, the meeting allegedly took a turn for the worse after an exchange between St. Louis Alderman Terry Kennedy and Jeff Roorda of the St. Louis Police Officers Association, St. Louis Post-Dispatch's Nicholas Pistor reported. Roorda allegedly yelled from the audience, "How about some order here," after a police officer's statement was interrupted by other attendees, according to the St. Louis American. Alderman Kennedy replied, "You do not tell me my function," after which Roorda began moving to the front of the room, pushing a woman on his way, according to those at the scene. Social media posted by those at the meeting suggested that Roorda had been involved in the altercation.

<snip>

Alderman Antonio French, the lead sponsor of the bill calling for civilian oversight of police, expressed dismay over the altercation. "We saw once again tonight how fractured our city remains. We have a lot of work to do. I believe a strong civilian review board can help," French tweeted. "The behavior of union official Jeff Roorda tonight was deplorable, and disrespectful to the fine men and women he is supposed to represent," he added.

Photos from the scene showed Roorda wearing a bracelet that said, "I Am Darren Wilson," the Ferguson police officer who shot the unarmed, black, 18-year-old Michael Brown.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/28/st-louis-city-hall-brawl_n_6567380.html


Meeting on proposed civilian oversight review board out of control at City Hall. #Ferguson pic.twitter.com/BrLSctHIAJ

— Robert Cohen (@kodacohen) January 29, 2015


Wow! Things just got outta hand pic.twitter.com/58WbugaeKR

— Christina Coleman (@ChristinaKSDK) January 29, 2015


This is a developing story. Check back for updates.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jan, 2015 06:24 am

Police cover-up, prosecutor misconduct claims could lead to new trial for 3 in prison since 1996


Hearing scheduled Thursday in Cuyahoga courtroom
Ron Regan
4:51 PM, Jan 28, 2015
10:50 PM, Jan 28, 2015
WEWS

CLEVELAND - A hearing for a new trial for three Cleveland men convicted of murder will include claims that a former Cuyahoga County prosecutor and East Cleveland Police withheld key evidence that resulted in a wrongful conviction.

The Ohio Innocence Project took on the case on behalf of Eugene Johnson, Derrick Wheat and laurese Glover, who were convicted murdering a 19-year-old following a 1995 shooting.

All three insisted they were innocent during the trial and have remained in prison for almost 20 years for a crime they say they did not commit.

According to court documents filed in the case, attorneys with the Innocence Project are expected to argue that new evidence has surfaced—including new eyewitnesses—after being withheld for decades.

They also argue the prosecution's only eyewitness has since recanted her testimony.

In addition, a 1998 letter from the prosecutor involved in the case will be introduced that "directs" police to "turn over" the entire department file including "all items in the detective bureau" and "records room" to the prosecutor's office—insisting in the letter that the evidence and case files "are not public records".

A spokesperson for the Cuyahoga County Prosecutors' Office downplayed the letter saying defense attorneys have had the letter in their possession for years and that the case has been litigated in both state and federal courts previously with convictions upheld.

The Cuyahoga County Prosecutor's Office provided a 1999 motion for a new trial in this same case that includes the letter that instructed East Cleveland Police to "turn over" all files in the case to the prosecutor's office based on its assessment that the records were "not public records".

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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jan, 2015 06:43 am


How the cops in my town handled it:

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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jan, 2015 07:46 am
How Can We Stop Unnecessary and Dangerous SWAT Raids?
January 26, 2015
Lucy Steigerwald

By Lucy Steigerwald

From the column 'Bad Cop Blotter'

SWAT team members in Oregon during an exercise. Photo via the Oregon Department of Transportation's Flickr

Last May, Bounkham "Bou Bou" Phonesavanh was gravely injured by a flash-bang grenade thrown by a Habersham County, Georgia, SWAT team during a no-knock raid. The target was a relative of little Bou Bou's parents, who were only staying in the home because their house had burned down. But the toddler was the one who suffered. He was hospitalized and briefly got put in a medically induced coma, and the bills for all that—which neither the city nor the police will pay—hit $1 million.

All of this was so shocking and awful that it received more media attention than most disastrous police raids. When government employees put an 18-month-old in a hospital, that's bound to make waves. And now there's a bill making its way through the Georgia legislature that aims to make sure this tragedy isn't repeated.

State Senator Vincent Fort, a Democrat from Atlanta, has introduced Senate Bill 45, known as "Bou Bou's Law," which would, as VICE News reports, "require police to show probable cause that there is imminent potential for life endangerment or destruction of evidence if they knocked and declared their presence at a suspect's door prior to arrest. A separate House Bill 56 would put a stop to unannounced arrests between 10 PM and 6 AM, unless a judge specifically grants a warrant."

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Bill 56 is arguably the more important of the two measures. Bou Bou's Law is a step in the right direction, but since cops already normally use no-knock raids when there's a gun in the house—and since most drug suspects would destroy evidence if given the chance—the probable-cause requirement won't be that hard to surmount. But stopping cops from busting down doors late at night and early in the morning, when there's a lot of potential for confusion and violence on both sides, is a common-sense reform that would have saved the lives of people like David Hooks, who was killed by a Georgia SWAT team searching for narcotics last year.

More fundamental changes must be made to how SWAT teams are deployed, however. Last year an ACLU report found that only 7 percent of such deployments were "for hostage, barricade, or active shooter scenarios"—which are, of course, the scenarios SWAT teams are designed for. In most other cases, heavily armed cops with flash-bang grenades will just make it more likely that people will end up critically injured or dead. Until departments around the country accept that, there remains the chance for more cases like Bou Bou's.

Now on to this week's bad cops:

–In 2009, an internal CIA review suggested that the importance of information uncovered by torture was being overstressed. The CIA didn't see fit to share this with the rest of the class, however, and the agency continues to dispute the Senate's torture report, which was released in December and made similar claims. Guys, it's OK to admit that waterboarding was both ineffective and immoral.

–Earlier this month, Eric McDavid, who was sent to prison for eco-terrorism, was freed after serving almost half of his 20-year-old sentence thanks to the FBI's shady dealings being revealed. According to McDavid the bureau used a 19-year-old mole in a sort of honeypot operation, but what's even more damning is that the government withheld thousands of pages of evidence at the trial that would have exonerated him.

–In other federal agency news, the Department of Justice and the DEA paid the New York woman whose Facebook identity they used for drug stings a settlement of $134,000. The authorities did not, however, admit to having done anything wrong. Nor did they promise not to ever do it again.

–There is a warrant out for the arrest of a Detroit man who owes $30,000 in back child support—even though the DNA evidence says that Carnell Alexander is not the father of the kid in question. That sure seems like a mistake someone should have caught!

–Details are scarce on this one, but a 17-year-old girl was apparently shot and killed by the cops in Longview, Texas, after coming into the police station brandishing a knife. It sure seems like the police would be able to handle that threat without resorting to legal force.

–On Sunday, a 17-year-old Brooklyn teen was arrested for making threats against NYPD officers via Facebook. The weird part is that Osiris Aristy's threats were in Emoji form. He posted photos of himself with guns and drugs when he already had a rap sheet, so he's clearly not all that bright, but his arrest shows just how easy it to be arrested for saying stuff on social media. Be careful out there.

–Bayonne, New Jersey, cop Domenico Lillo was charged on January 23 with excessive force and falsification of records over his arrest of a suspect who he allegedly beat with a flashlight to the point of disfigurement. The plaintiff, Brandon Walsh, has also sued the Bayonne Police Department, and alleges that other officers did not help him during the December 2013 arrest. Walsh's mother and her grandchildren were also pepper-sprayed. Lillio was arrested by the FBI and suspended without pay once the charges were filed. He faces up to 30 years in prison.

–On Thursday, a Dearborn, Michigan, woman sued the local police department, alleging religious discrimination. Malak Kazan, a 27-year-old Muslim woman, was booked on a traffic violation and driving with a suspended license on July 9, which is ordinary enough, but at the police department she was told she had to remove her headscarf. Kazan said police ignored her pleas to be allowed to keep her scarf on, and even her request for a female officer to take the photo.

–Another Thursday lawsuit alleges that an unnamed woman was forced to show her genitals to prison guards after she tried to visit an inmate at a Tennessee prison while she was menstruating. The women, who is a frequent visitor to the privately run facility, says the presence of a sanitary pad made guards suspicious she was smuggling in contraband. She says she was not allowed to leave, or to show the pad to guards, or to take it out, but was actually forced to show her genitals in the bathroom.

–A nameless, apparently modest cop in Weymouth, Massachusetts went above and beyond the call of duty in responding to a woman's report of a stolen wallet on Thursday. Shannah Shea was shopping at Stop and Shop when she discovered that her wallet had been stolen, meaning her $300 was gone. Shea called 911, and the cop who responded purchased the $75 worth of groceries and gifts for her daughter she had in her cart. The cop didn't want the clerk to tell the tale, or even mention that he had paid for the groceries, which makes him humble as well as an extremely good cop.

Follow Lucy Steigerwald on Twitter.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jan, 2015 07:53 am
Can We Please Fire Police Officers Who Knock Down Dudes in Wheelchairs? Please?
July 7, 2014
Lucy Steigerwald

By Lucy Steigerwald

From the column 'Bad Cop Blotter'

http://assets.vice.com/content-images/contentimage/167624/wheelchair-bad-cops.jpg

On the afternoon of October 1, 2013, police in Lafayette, Indiana, were called to an adult education center after receiving reports about a man with a gun. When they got there, they found only a wheelchair-using 25-year-old student carrying a pocket knife. The man, Nicholas Kincade, reportedly told school security he had a gun for reasons that are still unclear, then angrily informed them that they needed a warrant to search his bag. When the police arrived, they went through his things, found only the pocket knife, and told Kincade to leave the area. At that point, it was an odd but not particularly notable encounter.

Then, as seen on dashcam footage, Kincade ran over the foot of Lieutenant Tom Davidson, who promptly shoved him out of his chair and onto the sidewalk. Davidson and the other officers then pulled Kincade off the road and back into his wheelchair and arrested him for battery, a charge that was later dropped. The video is cringe-worthy, and it also answers the question, “What does a cop have to do for his superiors to fire him?”

On Tuesday, July 1, Lafayette Police Chief Patrick Flannelly told the press that Davidson’s “use of force in this case could have been avoided just by different positioning, by offset positioning, by moving out of the way, by not standing where he was standing.” According to Flannelly, the command staff soon reached a unanimous decision: Davidson was guilty of using excessive force and conduct unbecoming of an officer; they also recommended that he be fired. The mayor of Lafayette agreed. And then, on appeal, a review board decided that a 30-day unpaid suspension and a demotion of rank would do instead. No criminal charges will be brought against Davidson either.

Activists working to combat police misconduct tend to focus on corruption and incompetence within departments, and for good reason. But there have been plenty of instances where it’s civilians—lawyers and juries and the public at large—who are responsible for letting cops get away with crimes.

Think of the killing of Kelly Thomas, an ugly incident that occurred three years ago this month in which the homeless schizophrenic man was beaten to death by Fullerton, California, officers Manuel Ramos and Jay Cicinelli. The district attorney charged the officers with second-degree murder, involuntary manslaughter, and excessive force; the Fullerton chief of police didn’t want them back on his force, ever—and a jury of 12 let Ramos and Cicinelli walk free.

Or think back further, to the Rodney King beating—one of the first police brutality incidents to be captured on video—and the deadly riots that resulted after the three cops who did it were acquitted.

Research by the Cato Institute’s National Police Misconduct Reporting Project suggests that cops are less likely to be charged with and convicted for crimes than the average citizen, and when they are found guilty they are generally given more lenient sentences. Part of that can be chalked up to the “blue line” of silence, the unwritten rule that says cops shouldn’t snitch on other cops, but part of that blame lies with weak civilian oversight, timid grand juries, and a generalized societal respect for police that does none of us any favors.

Cops remain a special class of people who are given guns and the authority to hurt, detain, and even kill—yet too often, we refuse to cops to a higher standard of behavior that their status should demand.

Now on to this week’s bad cops:

-In case we weren’t sick of the NSA yet, this week brought two new revelations to add to the pile of 1,675 revelations that have already come out about the futuristic spy agency: Firstly, it turns out that just about every user of the IP-address-hiding Tor Project has their IP address flagged by the NSA through its XKeyscore program, and even visitors to the website that explains what Tor is aren’t safe from this treatment. Secondly, a Washington Post investigation that came out over the Fourth of July weekend revealed that up to 90 percent of the individuals whose information was captured by the NSA weren’t actually targets of the agency. The silver lining here is that the bureaucrats charged with monitoring our every move don’t actually seem very good at their jobs, I guess?

-On May 27, a small-time pot dealer named Jason Westcott was shot and killed by a SWAT team in Tampa, Florida, after the cops busted down the door and the 29-year-old reached for his gun. What could make that story bleaker? Well, the raid was over a piddling amount of drugs—the police got a warrant after an informant bought $200 worth of weed in four months. You want it to get more awful? Well according to a July 5 Tampa Bay Times story on Westcott’s death, the dealer bought the gun after the cops told him to get one for his protection. Christ.

-Sometimes, the headline is informative enough that you barely need to read the article. “Cop Rats Out His Daughter-in-Law After Helping Her Grow Marijuana for His Cancer-Stricken Granddaughter” is one of those times, unfortunately. At least the officer waited until his granddaughter passed away from that brain tumor.

-More awfulness: A video reportedly recorded last Tuesday shows an officer with the California Highway Patrol (CHP) straddling a 51-year-old black woman and punching her in the head repeatedly. The incident took place after the woman, Marlene Pinnock, was apparently walking barefoot beside the highway near West Los Angeles and occasionally wandering into traffic. The CHP officer restrained Pinnock, who struggled, and then began pummeling her. The passerby who filmed it was appalled, telling the local media, “If you look at the video, there are 15 hits. To the head, and not just simple jabs. These are blows to the head. Blows. Really serious blows. And this is ridiculous to me.” That cop, who has yet to be named, is on administrative leave while his conduct is investigated.

-Speaking of the CHP, last week VICE contributor Colby Tibbet reported that as part of a “what are you high on, son?” training program, the CHP has begun forcing local homeless people to participate, essentially serving as practice material for cops, or face arrest for minor crimes. One woman Tibbet interviewed even said the cops forced her to leave work and take part after they accused her of being high. “I felt like I was under their shoe, like some gum,” she told him.

-On Friday, a seven-year-old slipped on some mossy rocks and fell into the Brazos River in Waco, Texas—but wait, this story actually has a happy ending: Two police officers were present and acted fast, one jumping in to grab the boy, the other helping them both to shore. Our two Good Cops of the Week are detectives Dennis Taylor and Daniel Harper, who quickly turned a potential tragedy into a fun story for the boy to tell his classmates.

Lucy Steigerwald is a freelance writer and photographer. Read her blog here and follow her on Twitter.


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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jan, 2015 08:39 am
Seattle Cops Sorry About Arresting 70-Year-Old Black Vet for No Reason

This week, the Seattle Police Department issued an apology to a 70-year-old black veteran who was arrested last summer when a female officer apparently falsely accused him of threatening her with a golf club.

William Wingate, a 69-year-old Seattle man who regularly used his golf club as a cane, was standing on a street corner last summer when Officer Cynthia Whitlatch pulled up next to him.

In a exchange captured on her police cruiser's dash cam, Whitlatch accused Wingate of threatening her with his club, repeatedly warning him, "You're being audio and videotaped."

But as the police department conceded, there's no evidence at all—much less a recording—showing that Wingate threatened Whitlatch in any way.

Read the rest at: http://gawker.com/seattle-pd-sorry-about-arresting-70-year-old-black-vete-1682456896
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Moment-in-Time
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jan, 2015 11:51 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
"Sure, some cops are bad, it doesn't mean they all are!" The question isn't "are all cops bad or not". It's about a significant minority of cops being bad and how many people do they have to needlessly, mindlessly kill before society cleans out and repairs its police system.


The police force is a microcosm of society at large, highlighting existent though sometimes dormant, feelings of hostility in many individuals on both sides of the question. Just as there are mentally defective citizens within society among us, even on a2k, with hidden psychological shortcomings just laying in wait to prey on an unsuspecting public. Within our own immediate family, one will sometimes encounter a jackass, or a silly drunken uncle, etc. The police officer who drew his gun, shooting on arrival at the playground, the young African American boy, should not have been on the force, and yet there he was, doing his thing. Society produces a significant number of police who rubberstamp all minorities and in particular African Americans. Yes, there are decent police with high moral values and integrity, but generally speaking they are overshadowed, most times drowned out by the bad cops. Why are we so surprised when we see our racist cultural handiwork on display. It's difficult to see how and why there have not been more killings of blacks youth. A few months ago I remember seeing on TV a hefty white cop on top of an African American senior citizen, on the ground, punching this woman in the face with his fist, on the side of a major highway....this scene was captured on camera.....I wonder is this cop was transferred without losing a day's pay.

Racism is a cancer in American society but there promises to be a somewhat future panacea with it being less so with newer generations sans the older white American mentality.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jan, 2015 12:02 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
Unfortunately, this cancer will continue.
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