Craven de Kere wrote:HTB,
That's not what I said, I didn't mean that the truly compassionate are not going to label themselves as such but that those devoid of what others would consider compassion often think they are compassionate.
"He's a cold calculating greedy bastid, I'm just rational and show tough love"
Often compassion isn't so much the issue as is policy. In the past the notion that the poor were entirely responsible for thir plight was considered sound, it has been debunked and now most people realize that the poor are partially but not always completly responsible for thir poverty. The old ratiocination might not have been lacking in compassion as much as simply being equivocal.
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Craven:
I said that I agreed with what you wrote earlier.
Then, I wrote content -- opinions -- of my own.
I never suggested that what I contributed as my own opinions, making a mention of agreeing with your earlier comments, were, in fact, something that you'd also said.
I did agree with what you wrote earlier.
Alright?
The labelling issue is wearing thin, on all sides. But, there is a preposterous amount of labelling lingoistics coming from the ever so wrong, "right," and many of us not in the Republican bent are long since decided that what they're actually doing is establishing one thing, by saying something else.
Whether it's intentional or some group think plan, who can say (I don't think it is, and have never considered such). But, it is the indication of the same social phenomenon that establishes and then carries forward, in all human societies, the phenomenon of making statements, based upon social "acceptability," that make no literal or actual sense within a language.
Many social movements today depend upon social recognition for their rewards -- "faith based" is a key example of same -- and from those/this movement(s), arise much social engineering.
Doesn't establish truth, morality or even "religious" behavior, just that it reinforces a group, or several or even many, groups and group established "norms."
The worst of those "norms" within several social groups of today is that there exists some "Liberal" something. And, that Republicans represent the "right" and "conservative" among society.
In my experience, the most egregious and exaggerated behaviors in today's society are the responsibility of the "conservative" group think. Which means, in fact, that they are the most "liberally" behaved and motivated.