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Sun 6 Jul, 2014 05:33 am
I meet you all the time. You hate Obama. You hate gay people. You hate black people, immigrants, Muslims, labor unions, women who want the right to make choices concerning their bodies, you hate em all. You hate being called racist. You hate being called a bigot. Maybe if you talked about creating jobs more than you talk about why you hate gay people we wouldn't call you bigots. Maybe if you talked about black people without automatically assuming they are on food stamps while demanding their birth certificates we wouldn't call you racist. You hate socialism and social justice. You hate regulations and taxes and spending and the Government. You hate.
You like war. You like torture. You like Jesus. I don't know how in the hell any of that is compatible, but no one ever accused you haters of being over-committed to ideological consistency. You like people who look like you or at least hate most of the things that you hate. You hate everything else.
Now, I know you profess to love our country and the founding fathers (unless you are reminded that they believed in the separation of church and state), but I need to remind you that America is NOT what Fox News says it is. America is a melting pot, it always has been. We are a multi-cultural amalgamation of all kinds of people, and yet you still demonize everyone who is not a rich, white, heterosexual christian male or his submissive and obedient wife.
You hate liberals, moderates, hell, anyone who disagrees with Conservative dogma as espoused by Fox News and Rush Limbaugh. You hate em.
Well, here are the facts, Jack. If you hate the Government then you are unqualified to manage it. If you hate gay people more than you love America than you should take your own advice and get the hell out. There are several countries that are openly hostile to gay people, but they are full of brown people and you don't like them much either from what I understand. It looks like you are screwed, but that's not what I am here to tell you.
More rant below the fold . . .
Now that you have thrown everything and the kitchen sink at President Obama and it still hasn't worked you are panicking. Obama's approval ratings are still near 50% despite your best efforts to undermine the economy and America's recovery at every step you can. You tried to hold the American economy hostage to force America into default on its' debts, debts that YOU rang up under Bush, so you could blame it on Obama and it failed. You've used the filibuster more than any other Congress ever, going so far as to vote against providing health care access to 9/11 first responders. You remember 9/11, don't you, it's that thing you used to lie us into a war in Iraq, and then when Obama killed Bin Laden and ended the war in Iraq you told people that he hates America and wants the troops to fail. You monsters. You hate Obama with a passion, despite the fact that he is a tax cutting, deficit reducing war President who undermines civil rights and delivers corporate friendly watered down reforms that benefit special interests just like a Republican. You call him a Kenyan. You call him a socialist. You dance with your hatred singing it proudly in the rain like it was a 1950's musical.
Frankly, you disgust me. Your hatred nauseates me. Your bigotry offends me. Your racism revolts me.
Dear haters, I am openly questioning your patriotism.
I think you hate gays, Obama, black people, poor people, all of us, women, atheists and agnostics, Latinos, Muslims, Liberals, all of us, I think you hate every one who isn't exactly like you, and I think you hate us more than you love your country.
I think you hate gay soldiers more than you want America to win its wars.
I don't even think you want America to win wars, you just want America to have wars, never ending wars and the war profiteering it generates. You love that kind of spending, you love spending on faith based initiatives and abstinence based sex education (George Carlin would have loved that one), you love spending on subsidies for profitable oil corporations, you spend like drunken sailors when you are in the White House, but if it is a Democrat then suddenly you cheer when America doesn't get the Olympics because it might make the black President look bad. But oooh you love your country, you say, and you want it back. Well listen here skippy, it isn't your country, you don't own it, it is our country, and America is NOT the religiously extremist Foxbots who hate science, elitist professors and having a vibrant and meaningful sex life with someone we love if Rick Santorum doesn't approve of it. Rick Santorum isn't running for America's ******* high school dance chaperone, he should probably just shut the hell up about sex, but he can't because he has nothing else to run on.
Republicans can NOT win on the issues. They've got NOTHING. All they have is a divide and conquer class war that pits ignorant racist and bigoted people against the rest of us in a meaningless battle of wedge issues and the already proven to fail George W. Bush agenda again of tax cuts for the rich, deregulation, privatization and war profiteering and nothing else, so all they can do is blame black people, gays the government, anybody and everyone else for their own failings. The party of personal responsibility, my ass.
But they love multi-national corporations, just ask a gay hating and racist religious extremist if they think Corporations are people and they will gladly agree, but if you ask them if gay people are people they aren't so sure.
Dear haters, you are the cruel, heartless misinformed assholes who would sell America out to Haliburton in a heartbeat, you would rather pay ZERO taxes than you would see a newly born baby get access to quality health care, you cheer when we discuss denying health care to young people with preventable diseases, and you boo when we discuss the First Ladies plan to cut back on childhood obesity. You are a cross to carry and a flag to wrap yourself in away from being the people who Sinclair Lewis warned us about, but I guarantee that if Fox News told you to dress that way you would, because you are the same blind, ignorant and closed minded dunces who drove this country into a civil war years ago because you are bound to the notion that some men are more equal than others. In short, the reason I proudly wear my union army hat is because of seditious sell outs like you who constantly **** over working class Americans so a foreign entrepreneur like Rupert Murdoch can get a bigger tax break. If corporations are people, they are neither American patriots nor capable of love. Just like you.
So stop wearing your hate with pride. Stop celebrating your anti-science, anti-math ignorance. Stop using code words to mask your bigotry like "family values", especially when you hate my family and when you stand on the same stage as a guy who has had three marriages or if you share a seat in the Senate with a guy who cheated on his wife with hookers while wearing diapers. You should be ashamed. I know that you are just doing this to motivate your misinformed hate cult base because if they actually knew that your ideas will make them poorer than they are now, they would never vote for you. You are doing your best to impoverish your countrymen so rich people can get bigger tax breaks and you can keep on delivering corporate welfare to the special interests who have bribed you, and I am disgusted by the way you gleefully parade your hatred with aplomb. I don't think you do love America. At least, not as much as you hate everyone in America who isn't exactly like you.
You should think about that, and maybe get some help.
And for the record, I do not hate you. I am embarrassed by you and nauseated by your cruel and thoughtless behavior and your all consuming greed, but I do not hate you. I forgive you and I hope you can change someday, but I don't hate you. You have enough hate in you for the rest of us as it is.
Quote: I think you hate gay soldiers more than you want America to win its wars.
Even the apparently bright USians can't seem to be honest. "win its wars"?!
Raamen. But it won't do anything but stir them up, like a rattlesnake getting poked with a stick.
@edgarblythe,
You could try honesty, Ed, like admitting your own shortcomings, your own denial of the truth. You see, it isn't just right wing nutcases. Anyone who denies reality like this writer has, something you certainly have done, only contributes to the delusion.
The USA committed the ultimate of war crimes in both Iraq and Afghanistan. From those war crimes, many more war crimes flowed.
The USA committed myriad acts of terrorism in those two debacles, terrorism that makes 9-11 look like a picnic in the park.
@edgarblythe,
Ditto.
Fine speech but it means nothing to them. For the vast majority, the sheeples, it will just wash over them.
To the Kochs, the Cheneys, The O'Reillys the manipulators of this world this will not even register. How can it?, these people have no empathy, they are not like the rest of us. They might as well be a different species, maybe they are.
Water off a ducks back to them, they'll just go on doing what they do, creating as much misery as possible for as many people as possible.
In fact when you accept the fact that a lot of these
people are basically psychopaths, it explains a lot.
Watching ABC This Week, or whatever it's called, this morning, most of what I heard seemed an echo of Fox News. The brainwashing is relentless.
@edgarblythe,
Quote:The brainwashing is relentless.
and working unfortunately.
@edgarblythe,
Quote:The brainwashing is relentless.
Yes, it really is, Ed. The USA has developed it to as fine an art as the world has ever seen. Imagine a country that has illegally invaded hundreds of times and the vast majority of the population thinks the USA is the good guys.
Imagine people who stick to this and other silly notions even when the facts are placed squarely in front of them, not once, but a number of times.
Blows your mind, doesn't it?!
As disgusted as I am with certain factions in my country, I truly believe if someone on A2K posted about the birth of their beautiful, healthy grandchild or child, that JTT would post better it would have died because it's an American piece of **** exiting the womb and deserves death and Hell. I thought I was an angry person but JTT hasn't a pleasant bone in he/she/it's body. Jesus wept.
@blueveinedthrobber,
You don't truly believe that at all, Bear, because I have never given the slightest indication that I would want something like that to occur.
Wouldn't you think that what you describe is more of y'all's perspective? Isn't this daily, constant pathological whitewash, "USA wars" and the like, of these heinous crimes against millions of sons, daughters and grand kids of the people exactly what you have accused me of?
This is just a "go to ludicrous extremes" piece of nonsense that I, quite frankly, didn't believe a sensible guy like you capable of. It's just another of many "shoot the messenger".
Your lack of honesty, "As disgusted as I am with certain factions in my country", is telling. The war crimes are myriad and numerous, and well documented, and you speak in tongues, too afraid to utter the truth.
"As disgusted as I am with certain factions in my country" is whitewashed speech. You know the limits and the limits here at a2k and in society at large, don't allow you to speak the truth. It's odd that the Bear feels so constrained in this one regard but not in any other. It's odd that the land of freedom of speech actually doesn't have it.
I had to ignore that one. I didn't want to, but, enough is enough.
@edgarblythe,
Freedom of speech is fundamental to the American system of governance.
To Edgar Blythe, not so much.
@edgarblythe,
You don't seem to be honest enough to even be clear in your thoughts, Ed. You, the writer!
One would think that a writer would not think it a desirable thing to dismiss pondering uncomfortable thoughts.
JTT, sorry friend, but I think you're the most unhappy person on this site.
Without exaggeration, I have NEVER known you to make a positive statement of any kind. All roads lead to a USA rant. Even the most cynical of us give it a rest and post just as regular human beings commenting on the subject at hand occasionally.
@blueveinedthrobber,
The "tax cut only party" is the most dangerous party in this world of politics. The happiest people live in countries where the tax rate is some of the highest in the world. They have longevity and happiness as their proof. The number one happiest people live in Denmark; their tax rate is 52% plus 8% payroll tax, and sales tax is another 25%. Yea, they're the happiest on this planet. The US? Do you really need to ask? We rank 17th; and we're supposed to be the "richest" country. Maximum tax rate in the US is 37%, and most of that is spent on defense and loan payments.
@blueveinedthrobber,
You're not honest enough to admit your assessment was nonsense, Bear. Nor are you honest enough to address the other points I raised. I'm not at all surprised. Mr Straight Talk hits the wall.
@blueveinedthrobber,
One has to counter the relentless USA propaganda. You're so deeply involved in it you can't see it for what it really is - a giant Potemkin village, a monstrous evil lie.
Millions upon millions upon millions would not have died, Bear, if the USA was what the propaganda describes.
I suspect that you meet a lot of conservatives of different kinds and tell them that they believe all these things, even though usually they don't.
@Brandon9000,
If they don't, we haven't been hearing about it. Silence is approval. Their voting them back into office is 'approval' of what they're doing.
@blueveinedthrobber,
Y'all will continue to slaughter millions more across the globe and you certainly will continue to get way more than get you, but will that make any difference to the USA parent or grandparent whose child/gchild gets caught in this crazy crossfire?
Until y'all grow up enough to admit that these killings, for the most part, happen because of USA interference in others countries and affairs, this will never end.
If you are satisfied with the hugely unbalanced death toll and you are all content to continue in your delusions, there's not much that can be done.
Damn sad commentary on what the USA was supposed to be. None of you are disappointed? Come on, you are Americans - you have the right to express your viewpoint. Is the fear really that great that it prevents you from speaking honestly?
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