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Fluoride is a posion!

 
 
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jun, 2014 12:27 am
@giujohn,
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Forget Fluoride. What about di-hydrogen oxide??? I think the government should ban it outright!

In liquid form it causes numerous deaths.
In a gaseous state it will instantly burn you.
In solid form if you are exposed to it for long periods it will cause tissue death.
But yet it's readily available to anyone, even children.


This thread is about fluoride, so start your own thread, thank you.
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jun, 2014 12:28 am
@BillRM,
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Yes indeed an the average life span in the West keep going up year after year decade after decade.


O my always this one comes up, no matter what!

Try some logic first please!
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jun, 2014 12:29 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
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Mind you, fluoride is only part of the problem, farmers have been saturating crops with pesticides and all kinds of nasty stuff for years and we have to eat it on our brussel sprouts, plus of course some of it also gets washed into streams and rivers..


I don't deny that, however, THIS thread is about the neurotoxin fluoride.
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Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jun, 2014 01:05 am
@djjd62,
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pineal envy?


Maybe. Now, please refute The Lancet!
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BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jun, 2014 05:40 am
@Quehoniaomath,
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Try some logic first please!


Seem if we was doing anything that would cause great harm to large numbers of the population it would be reflected in decreasing lifespans not ever increasing lifespans over time as in the case of fluoridation that had been done on a large scale for over half a century.
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jun, 2014 06:02 am
@BillRM,
Quahog is not good at arguing from points of logic. He needs these vast BUMPER STICKERS of opinion. His life is very easily understood.

Hes a David Icke follower (and probably Glenn BEck and George Noori on this continent) . Quahog likes his logic to be shoutable at high decibles and full of simple one syllable words.


Science Blows
Evolution Sucks
Flouride is poison
Schools Are Evil

Life is Good for Quahog, he has his missions and a whole load of internet clips to post. Hes like Santa Clause for uneducated idiots
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jun, 2014 06:02 am
Even if fluoride or anything else was PROVEN to be completely harmless, I still wouldn't like the government to put it in our water without our permission, are they nazis or what?
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jun, 2014 07:46 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
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I still wouldn't like the government to put it in our water without our permission, are they nazis or what?


Sorry but the right of people including poor children not to have rotting teeth out weight your complete illogical dislike for having 2 ppm of the element fluoride in your water and if you do not care for it please feel free to filter it out of your drinking water.
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jun, 2014 07:52 am
@BillRM,
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Sorry but the right of people including poor children not to have rotting teeth out weight your complete illogical dislike for having 2 ppm of the element fluoride in your water and if you do not care for it please feel free to filter it out of your drinking water.


Duh??????
But you are still assuming fluoride is a good thing! IT ISNT it IS a neurotoxin!
So, you haven't read the article in The Lancet, that is for sure!!!
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jun, 2014 08:00 am
@Quehoniaomath,
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Duh??????
But you are still assuming fluoride is a good thing!


Of course it is a good thing at 2 ppm in the public water supply as had been proven over the course of fifty years or more in the US.
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jun, 2014 08:38 am
@BillRM,
heres a deadly alkaloid that the government even subsidizes

        http://blogs.plos.org/speakeasyscience/files/2012/02/220px-Theobromin_-_Theobromine.svg_.png
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Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jun, 2014 08:45 am
@BillRM,
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Of course it is a good thing at 2 ppm in the public water supply as had been proven over the course of fifty years or more in the US.


No, it is not! READ THE ARTICLE!!!

Gee, it seems you had to many of this fluoride!
Butrflynet
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jun, 2014 09:19 am
@Quehoniaomath,
Do you have a link for the full Lancet article you keep insisting we read? Your linked column just copies a one paragraph summary of the article and in the footnotes gives a link to the same one paragraph summary and requires subscription to read the article.

I'd love to read the thing if you can provide a link to it that doesn't require payment.
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jun, 2014 09:23 am
@Quehoniaomath,
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Gee, it seems you had to many of this fluoride!


Floride is a collective , like radioactivity. So it isn't "you've had too many of this fluoride" instead it should be
"you've had too much (of this-which is implied), fluoride"

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Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jun, 2014 10:19 am
@Butrflynet,
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Do you have a link for the full Lancet article you keep insisting we read? Your linked column just copies a one paragraph summary of the article and in the footnotes gives a link to the same one paragraph summary and requires subscription to read the article.

I'd love to read the thing if you can provide a link to it that doesn't require payment.


well, that is more honest isn't it?
Can't you go to a library nearby?
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jun, 2014 10:51 am
@Quehoniaomath,
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well, that is more honest isn't it?
Can't you go to a library nearby?


LOL one article that is not even accessible by the internet is hardly going to counter a history of 50 years of massive use by the majority of the American public with sold benefit proven.

If you wish to make an argument for throwing away 50 years of safe use then you are the one who will need to show solid no question about it proof of harm outweighing the known benefits.




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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoride

Cavity prevention[edit]
Main articles: Fluoride therapy and Water fluoridation


Fluoride is sold in tablets for cavity prevention.
Fluoride-containing compounds are used in topical and systemic fluoride therapy for preventing tooth decay. They are used for water fluoridation and in many products associated with oral hygiene.[10] Originally, sodium fluoride was used to fluoridate water; hexafluorosilicic acid (H2SiF6) and its salt sodium hexafluorosilicate (Na2SiF6) are more commonly used additives, especially in the United States. The fluoridation of water is known to prevent tooth decay[11][12] and is considered by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention as "one of 10 great public health achievements of the 20th century".[13][14] In some countries where large, centralized water systems are uncommon, fluoride is delivered to the populace by fluoridating table salt. For the method of action for cavity prevention (see Fluoride therapy). Fluoridation of water has its critics (see Water fluoridation controversy).[15]

Biochemical reagent



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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation_controversy

Statements for water fluoridation
The fluoridation of public water has been hailed by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control as one of the top medical achievements of the 20th century.[45] It is ranked No. 9 on this list ahead of "Recognition of tobacco use as a health hazard."[46]

The American Dental Association calls water fluoridation "one of the safest and most beneficial, cost-effective public health measures for preventing, controlling, and in some cases reversing, tooth decay."[47]

Health Canada supports fluoridation, citing a number of international scientific reviews that indicate "there is no link between any adverse health effects and exposure to fluoride in drinking water at levels that are below the maximum acceptable concentration of 1.5 mg/L."[48]

The World Health Organization says fluoridation is an effective way to prevent tooth decay in poor communities. "In some developed countries, the health and economic benefits of fluoridation may be small, but particularly important in deprived areas, where water fluoridation may be a key factor in reducing inequalities in dental health."[49]

A 2008 meta-analysis of published research into fluoride's effect on osteoporosis found that daily doses of up to 20 mg fluoride significantly increased bone mineral density and reduced fracture risk.[50]

Sociologist Brian Martin states that sociologists have typically viewed opposition to water fluoridation as irrational, although critics of this position have argued that this rests on an uncritical attitude toward scientific knowledge.[2]
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jun, 2014 11:04 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
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Even if fluoride or anything else was PROVEN to be completely harmless, I still wouldn't like the government to put it in our water without our permission, are they nazis or what?


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation_controversy

In her book "50 Health Scares That Fizzled" Joan Callahan writes that: "For lower-income people with no insurance, fluoridated water (like enriched flour and fortified milk) looks more like a free preventative health measure that a few elitists are trying to take away." [13]
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jun, 2014 11:04 am
@Quehoniaomath,
You are the one who is insisting we read it. It is quite convenient to insist and not provide a link that allows us to do so.

Why should I have to go to a library to read something you are insisting with every post that we read or disallow the response if it is not read?

You keep pointing to it as your authority. Have YOU read the actual article yourself?

Or, have you just read the column where that person is trying to sell her book?
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jun, 2014 11:35 am
@Butrflynet,
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You are the one who is insisting we read it. It is quite convenient to insist and not provide a link that allows us to do so.

Why should I have to go to a library to read something you are insisting with every post that we read or disallow the response if it is not read?

You keep pointing to it as your authority. Have YOU read the actual article yourself?

Or, have you just read the column where that person is trying to sell her book?


I live nearby a University library! Wink
(btw lots and lots of social akward creeps there !!, better to go outside for them!)
And besides, this is not the only source saying this.
And, is it also not very funny that people dismiss something and even haven't read it? That is saying soemthing isn't it?
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jun, 2014 11:39 am
@BillRM,
start reading this in stead of government approvecd crap!

http://www.fluoridealert.org/uploads/fluoride-deception.jpg




 

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