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Does political correcteness weaken the fabric of a nation?

 
 
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 1 Apr, 2015 01:00 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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Getting frustrated...aren't ya?


With a babbling old man? Not really. It wouldn't be nice.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 1 Apr, 2015 01:02 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

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Getting frustrated...aren't ya?


With a babbling old man? Not really. It wouldn't be nice.


Ahhh...I think you ARE getting frustrated. And who here is going to suppose you are concerned with being "nice?"
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 1 Apr, 2015 01:18 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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And who here is going to suppose you are concerned with being "nice?"


There isn't much point to it. You see progressives and liberals are rude and arrogant by nature. And it seems incapable of handling what they dish out.

But, I suppose feeling superior and thinking that people cannot think for themselves is trap they have been caught in since the sixties. So your hypocritical ramblings mean 0 to any independently thinking man.

Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 1 Apr, 2015 01:24 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

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And who here is going to suppose you are concerned with being "nice?"


There isn't much point to it. You see progressives and liberals are rude and arrogant by nature. And it seems incapable of handling what they dish out.


I am a progressive...and I have no problem handling what other dish out. In fact, I delight in it.

You were the one who said you would not do something....BECAUSE IT WOULD NOT BE NICE.

My question holds: Who here is going to supposes you are concerned with being "nice?"


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But, I suppose feeling superior and thinking that people cannot think for themselves is trap they have been caught in since the sixties. So your hypocritical ramblings mean 0 to any independently thinking man.
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Whoa...talk about rambling! Was that supposed to be a coherent thought you were spewing?

Wanna try it again in English...which means more than just stringing some English words together.
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Wed 1 Apr, 2015 01:24 pm
@coldjoint,
It is true. Its a way to irritate you joint and make you dig in and get more strident and even more absurd than normal. Seems to be working. Good work frank.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 1 Apr, 2015 01:30 pm
@MontereyJack,
Thank you, Jack...and BINGO! Laughing

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coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 1 Apr, 2015 03:49 pm
@MontereyJack,
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It is true. Its a way to irritate you


Why would you do that? Personally attacking or trying to irritate someone is one of Alinskys rules. Who, by the way, Killary knew personally. Brainwashed nitwits that think the left gives a flying **** about your rights.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 1 Apr, 2015 03:54 pm
Here is someone teaching our children. This is progressive?
http://d2rg8jfniu44sp.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Jess_Dooley_Tweet.jpg

http://rightwingnews.com/democrats/liberal-high-school-coach-tweets-that-christian-business-should-be-burned-down/
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 1 Apr, 2015 08:45 pm
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The Progressive Left Destroys People’s Lives


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If you haven’t heard, a small family owned pizza place in Indiana was forced to close its doors today.

When a journalist, eager to advance the left’s narrative, walked into the shop and asked for their opinion on gay marriage, she was told that they wouldn’t cater a gay wedding. The pizza place didn’t go out looking for this controversy. It came to them in the form a journalist’s question.

In a matter of hours, liberals in professional media and activists on social media transformed the story into INDIANA PIZZA PLACE REFUSES TO SERVE GAYS, which is a lie.

The shop received so many threats that it’s now closed until further notice.

Newsflash for America: This is what the progressive left does. They destroy people’s lives.

Ferguson? Lives destroyed based on a lie.
UVA gang rape story? Lives destroyed based on a lie.
Indiana Religious Freedom Law? Lives destroyed based on a lie.


All aided by so-called journalists who are nothing more than social justice activists with a press pass.

If you want to help out Memories Pizza, there is a Go Fund Me campaign you can donate to. At the time of this writing, over $20,000 dollars have been contributed.

In 2010, Andrew Breitbart confronted liberal journalist Max Blumenthal who has a habit of accusing people of racism. Andrew said this right to his face:

You destroy people’s lives.

Assholes.
http://americanglob.com/2015/04/01/the-progressive-left-destroys-peoples-lives/
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 3 Apr, 2015 02:24 pm
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This week was a lesson for many conservatives and libertarians who thought they could stop talking about social issues. The problem with that is the left will not stop using the culture as a way to divide and conquer. We as conservatives need to change the battlefield and the rules of the war and hit them back.

The progressive left is not content to “live and let live.” They’re not content to let conservative Christians and others who oppose them to live their lives. They’ve made it clear that will drive anyone who disagrees with their vision for the culture and society out of public existence. These cultural Marxists want to silence all dissent to them.


This forum is a perfect example of this leftist crusade.
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That’s the choice we’re facing. The left wants to force all of America to conform to their view of the culture and to engage in a “Two Minutes Hate” against anyone who dissents. To counter this terrifying vision of conformity, we must build a culture of liberty and freedom. We have to stand opposed to any mob and resist the temptation to join one ourselves. Finally, we can’t ever forget that to “live and let live”, we have to let others do the same.

The left is determined to drive those out of public life they disagree with. It happened to Brendan Eich who was forced out at Mozilla for the crime of donating to the campaign supporting Proposition 8, which outlawed gay marriage in California. Former Sony Pictures Chairwoman Amy Pascal was fired after it was discovered that she sent a private e-mail making fun of President Obama by suggesting that he liked movies with black stars in them. The Pascal e-mail was only revealed when Sony was hacked. We saw it when the left tried to boycott Papa John’s over anti-Obamacare comments by its CEO and Chick Fil-A over its owner’s stance on gay marriage in 2012.

The college campuses all over the country are hotbeds of this nonsense. Colleges push nonsense about “white privilege“, “male privilege”, “cisgender privilege” and “Christian privilege.” University campuses are among the most hostile places for free speech in the country. “Safe spaces” are the norm where are places where speech that might hurt someone’s feelings is banned.


Again, emasculation, intimidation, and forced conformity. And Hell to pay if you disagree.

http://linkis.com/thehayride.com/2015/rKCJs
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 3 Apr, 2015 02:40 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

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This week was a lesson for many conservatives and libertarians who thought they could stop talking about social issues. The problem with that is the left will not stop using the culture as a way to divide and conquer. We as conservatives need to change the battlefield and the rules of the war and hit them back.

The progressive left is not content to “live and let live.” They’re not content to let conservative Christians and others who oppose them to live their lives. They’ve made it clear that will drive anyone who disagrees with their vision for the culture and society out of public existence. These cultural Marxists want to silence all dissent to them.


Right. If conservative Christians want to exclude certain people from society because their barbaric god says they should...those people should be excluded.

CJ...nothing wrong with twisting words and thoughts a bit to try to win a point that cannot be won without doing that...

...but twisting stuff this much makes your argument laughable.


http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/laughing/crying-with-laughter.gif

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This forum is a perfect example of this leftist crusade.
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That’s the choice we’re facing. The left wants to force all of America to conform to their view of the culture and to engage in a “Two Minutes Hate” against anyone who dissents. To counter this terrifying vision of conformity, we must build a culture of liberty and freedom. We have to stand opposed to any mob and resist the temptation to join one ourselves. Finally, we can’t ever forget that to “live and let live”, we have to let others do the same.

The left is determined to drive those out of public life they disagree with. It happened to Brendan Eich who was forced out at Mozilla for the crime of donating to the campaign supporting Proposition 8, which outlawed gay marriage in California. Former Sony Pictures Chairwoman Amy Pascal was fired after it was discovered that she sent a private e-mail making fun of President Obama by suggesting that he liked movies with black stars in them. The Pascal e-mail was only revealed when Sony was hacked. We saw it when the left tried to boycott Papa John’s over anti-Obamacare comments by its CEO and Chick Fil-A over its owner’s stance on gay marriage in 2012.

The college campuses all over the country are hotbeds of this nonsense. Colleges push nonsense about “white privilege“, “male privilege”, “cisgender privilege” and “Christian privilege.” University campuses are among the most hostile places for free speech in the country. “Safe spaces” are the norm where are places where speech that might hurt someone’s feelings is banned.


Again, emasculation, intimidation, and forced conformity. And Hell to pay if you disagree.

http://linkis.com/thehayride.com/2015/rKCJs



Seek professional help!, cj...you need it badly. /b]
neologist
 
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Reply Fri 3 Apr, 2015 05:33 pm
Just a word about the OP:
It was not to question whether the various causes were in themelves good or bad. It was to discuss whether the attempt to satisfy all causes might have unintended and/or harmful collateral effects.

coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 3 Apr, 2015 06:50 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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If conservative Christians want to exclude certain people from society


It doesn't say that Frank. I thought you could read. And it is the left that twists words, like you just did.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 4 Apr, 2015 06:14 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

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If conservative Christians want to exclude certain people from society


It doesn't say that Frank. I thought you could read. And it is the left that twists words, like you just did.


Yeah, it really does, cj.

It says,

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The progressive left is not content to “live and let live.” They’re not content to let conservative Christians and others who oppose them to live their lives.


Yeah, when conservative Christians insisted the Bible tells them it is okay to own slaves...the progressive simply would not leave them alone to "live their lives."

And now some conservative Christians want to exclude certain people from society by crafting laws like those in Indiana and Arkansas...and the progressives will not let them "live their lives."

But I will agree with you. The scum on the far right should be allowed to "live their lives."
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giujohn
 
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Reply Sat 4 Apr, 2015 11:51 am
Why is when the liberals bring us a law so Indians can use peyote its a wonderful ******* thing, but when conservatives bring the SAME LAW to protect constitutional rights, theres's a problem???
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sat 4 Apr, 2015 12:40 pm
Well, for starters, because peyote use doesn't impact anyone elseother than the users, but the Indiana and Ark laws go well beyond that, and allow "religious" people to deny equal protection of the law to others if they can somehow claim it's part of their religion. Businesses provide public accomodation (which is pretty broadly defined, as a result of the civil rights laws of the '60s). And those people that joint and others have cited apply it pretty selectively. Their religions presumably also dfine living together before marriage and premarital sex as sins. I don't see them questioning if a couple are living together before selling them something, or asking if the woman has a child out of wedlock, or questioning whether they've ever taken the name of the lord in vain, and turning them down if they have. Their use of their religion is pretty capricious. Further, they're denying service to people who are doing something that, by now, is perfectly legal in the vast majority of the US (37 states and counting). Do they question a woman as to whether she's ever had an abortion or used a birth control method that some religions deem abortifacients? (Keeping in mind that over 90% of Catholic women have used birth control methods not condones by the church)?? Highly doubtful. If they did any of those things, they'd basically have no business at all, bewcause chances are good it'd catch pretty much all of their customers. Sorry, their behavior is purely arvbitrary and inconsistent. If this were pre-1960, they could claim their religion forbade them to sell to blacks, as many preachers at the time preached. No. "Religious rights" as people choose to apply them, conflict too often with fundamental American rights to stand as the bad laws as written they've proven to be.
giujohn
 
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Reply Sat 4 Apr, 2015 12:51 pm
@MontereyJack,
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but the Indiana and Ark laws go well beyond that, and allow "religious" people to deny equal protection of the law to others if they can somehow claim it's part of their religion.Businesses provide public accomodation (which is pretty broadly defined, as a result of the civil rights laws of the '60s). And those people that joint and others have cited apply it pretty selectively.


You're wrong. Firs,t you are using the phrase "equal protection of the law to others" and that , while phrased incorrectly, if phrased correctly still does not apply in this situation.
I believe your argument centers around the second part of the above quote regarding private businesses. In that regard, in the other states that have the same law it was attempted to be used in that fashion as a defense and the defendants did not pervail. The law is a prohibition against Government action.

The hoopla is the latest attempt by the liberal media and hollywood types to rail against any group that is a majority in a desperate attempt to keep these disingenuous liberals relevant.
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clymid
 
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Reply Sat 4 Apr, 2015 03:37 pm
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 4 Apr, 2015 03:59 pm
@giujohn,
This is one of the reasons I have so much trouble with the word "belief" in this area.

Are we actually expected to "respect" someone's blind guesses about the true nature of REALITY, simply because instead of calling the blind guesses "blind guesses"...they call them "beliefs."

Screw their blind guesses...whether they have the backbone to call them blind guesses or if they want to disguise them using the word "beliefs"...so that they can then demand that we "respect" them.

No one doing business as a public business should have the right to discriminate against a person or group because of race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation...just because they have made the blind guess that there is a GOD...and that the idiot GOD is offended by race, religion, gender or sexual orientation.

Okay?
clymid
 
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Reply Sat 4 Apr, 2015 04:12 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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No one doing business as a public business


Businesses are not owned by the public, they are owned by individuals in many cases.
 

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