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Beheaded Man's Father Blames US Military

 
 
Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 01:12 pm
Bush operatives will have to get to Michael Berg quickly to silence him!
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Published on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 by the Telegraph/UK
Beheaded Man's Father Blames US Military
by David Rennie

The killing of Nick Berg, the American telephone engineer beheaded by Islamic militants in Iraq, triggered a political storm last night as the murdered man's father blamed the Bush administration for the circumstances that led to his death.

Michael Berg, an avowed opponent of the war in Iraq, said his son might still be alive if the US military had not taken him into custody for 13 days in late March.

Mr Berg said he believed that if the 26-year-old had not been detained so long he might have been able to leave the country while conditions were more stable.

Nick Berg had traveled to Iraq as a freelance telecommunications entrepreneur intending to help rebuild communications antennae, but was detained by Iraqi police at a checkpoint in Mosul, amid confusion as to what he was doing in the area.

He was later passed to the US military, who finally freed him after his parents sued the federal government for his release on April 5. Mr Berg said his son had been held without a lawyer and was not allowed to make telephone calls.

The Berg family, from West Chester in Pennsylvania, were told of the gruesome video images of their son's killing by an Associated Press reporter yesterday afternoon.

Mr Berg's father, brother and sister collapsed in a tearful embrace in their front yard. The family already knew their son was dead. His mutilated body was found in Baghdad on Saturday.

"I knew he was decapitated before," Mr Berg said. "That manner is preferable to a long and torturous death. But I didn't want it to become public."

Mr Berg said his son had been a Bush supporter, and looked at the war "as bringing democracy to a country that didn't have it". The Bergs described their son as an idealist who had traveled before in the Third World, including Kenya and Ghana, where he had spent £500 on a brick press for an impoverished village.

Last night in a statement read by a neighbor the Bergs described their son as "a great kid" and said they were "devastated" by their loss.

Earlier they complained that federal officials had been unhelpful as they struggled to find out where their son was. They last heard from their son on April 9, when he said he was going to come home via Jordan.

Even before news broke of Mr Berg's murder Republican members of Congress and conservative media commentators, were expressing outrage at what they called the irresponsible and unpatriotic leaking of a secret military report into the abuses, and the publication of photographs of prisoner assaults.

It has already emerged that Gen Richard Myers, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, had warned CBS television that broadcasting the Abu Ghraib images might endanger the lives of soldiers and hostages.

Gen Myers succeeded in convincing CBS to hold off on broadcasting the images for two weeks, after he urged them not to inflame world opinion during the tense siege of Fallujah. The next 24 hours will tell whether public anger at the killing will swamp American soul-searching at the behavior of military reservists in Abu Ghraib.

There was already a significant slice of Middle American opinion that was impatient with talk of suffering Iraqis, arguing that the detainee abuse paled next to the attacks on US forces and hostages.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 01:29 pm
It would be nice if we could be sympathetic towards the family of Nic Berg and feel animosity towards those that killed him. He was just guy trying to help and this is what happened.

He wasn't a fighter, he wasn't even associated with the American military in any way. Now his death will be used to show why we shouldn't be there instead of why we SHOULD be there. To assure that the people that did this do not rise to power to continue these monstrous acts anymore.
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CoastalRat
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 01:30 pm
Let me make sure I have this right. An avowed opponent of the war blames Bush for the death of his son, who had gone to Iraq in order to profit from the war by being a part of the rebuilding effort. Why does this not surprise me.

I do not wish to minimalize his death, but Bush did not force him to be in Iraq. He went to a war zone of his own free will. I would say there should be less blame on Bush and more on Mr. Berg for going there in the first place.

Again, I am not making light of his death, but based on what you put in bold type Info, I guess everyone would be happy had the military kept him in custody because he would still be alive, right? Oh, wait, no, then you would complain that the military was infringing on his freedom to wander around a war zone on his own.
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Sam1951
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 02:37 pm
Civilians in a war zone are a problem. I can understand but not agree with using civilian contractors. Going to a place as "HOT" as Iraq is not what I consider a bright move but, any one can do it.
This is more blame game. The man is dead, there is nothing that can change that. His family is shcocked, devastated and reacting emotionally. Perfectly normal behavior under the circumstances.
Blame who? Bush for the war? Iraq for the war? The Media for making the atrocities public? The victim for being there? The men who beheaded him? All of the above?

A moment of silence for everyone who has died and will die because of the war in Iraq, please.

Thank you

Sam
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fealola
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 02:40 pm
Does anyone know why the US military was holding him?
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 02:45 pm
Question: Blame who?
Answer: The men who beheaded him.

Where is there any room for confusion? A civilian was intentionally targeted and murdered.
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 02:52 pm
Gosh, how simple things are when you don't have to think about them.

It's interesting, this angle re the family's anger. Before I read that, I did wonder about the young man's being there in the first place. Now it's even more complex.

Food for thought: In the past, when there's a country in the world that's especially dangerous for Americans, the State Dept. tells "non-essential" people to leave the country. Iraq right now is the most dangerous place in the world for Americans, yet there must be thousands of them there, all vulnerable like Berg was. Does this make any sense at all?
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 03:02 pm
I can certainly understand the anguish that the Berg family is feeling now. I can also appreciate that they want to lash out and blame someone for this horrible atrocity.

I agree with Bill that the ones to blame are the uncivilized madmen who perpetrated this heinous act. I also hear what D'Artagnan is saying.

There are many American civilians who are in Iraq for the money that they can make during the reconstruction. Anyone who puts himself in an unstable war zone, when he does not need to be there, has to know and take some responsibility for putting himself in harm's way.

I think that this incident clearly illustrates that the people that our brave young men and women are fighting are uncivilized brutes, who are bound and determined to have their way no matter what the cost.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 03:13 pm
I have no problem with a grieving parent blaming anyone he wishes, if it helps to ease the pain. Good point Phoenix. But it is ridiculous to quote him as if his loss somehow makes his absurd rationalization correct. On the other hand, I think I'm starting to get it…
We really just need to put ourselves in our enemy's shoes. They are basically just decent people, who would be peaceful if it wasn't for our actions, right? If you heard about torture going on in this country by an occupying military; wouldn't you go out and behead the nearest civilian telephone repairman? What rational person wouldn't? Of course it's Bush's fault.
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Deecups36
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 03:16 pm
There's something very odd about this entire story.

The article says, "Nick Berg had traveled to Iraq as a freelance telecommunications entrepreneur intending to help rebuild communications antennae....."

How did Nick Berg manage to "freelance" his way to Iraq?

All entry into and out of Iraq is controlled by the US military. Also, there are no commercial flights to Baghdad. The last airline to offer flights, Royal Jordanian, pulled the plug on service after the missle hit the DHL plane.

This would all mean Nick Berg was employed by someone or some country in order to reach Iraq. I mean, Iraq isn't exactly on the Lonely Planet's list of intriguing destinations.

Something just doesn't ring true.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 03:16 pm
Phoenix32890 wrote:


I think that this incident clearly illustrates that the people that our brave young men and women are fighting are uncivilized brutes, who are bound and determined to have their way no matter what the cost.


I see. Shocked
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 03:21 pm
Quote:
But it is ridiculous to quote him as if his loss somehow makes his absurd rationalization correct.


Bill- We have an internal war going on right here in the United States. The Democratic party, and their adherents, so want to reclaim power that they will go to absurd lengths to attempt to achieve their goals. Reason and logic has nothing to do with it!
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 03:25 pm
oy
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husker
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 03:27 pm
Phoenix32890 wrote:
Quote:
But it is ridiculous to quote him as if his loss somehow makes his absurd rationalization correct.


Bill- We have an internal war going on right here in the United States. The Democratic party, and their adherents, so want to reclaim power that they will go to absurd lengths to attempt to achieve their goals. Reason and logic has nothing to do with it!


WOW OMG my heart pitterpatters @ Phoenix
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BillW
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 03:28 pm
Bring 'em on! The neocon hypocrisy on this page alone absolutely astounds me Crying or Very sad
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 03:29 pm
I see the "few rotten apples" analogy is a one-way barrel.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 03:30 pm
dys- Nah, I think that there is a bit of rot in all the barrels!
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 03:33 pm
Phoenix32890 wrote:


The Democratic party, and their adherents, so want to reclaim power that they will go to absurd lengths to attempt to achieve their goals. Reason and logic has nothing to do with it!


Quote:
"I would state, though, from at least my perspective, that what we saw is appalling. It is consistent with the photos that you've seen in the press to date. They go beyond that in many ways in terms of the various activities that are depicted," said Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, a Tennessee Republican.
SOURCE
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 03:37 pm
Tom Delay - today after he viewed the remaining pictures commented "our enemies are far more evil than we are"
now I feel relieved, maybe even saintly.
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 03:38 pm
What "absurd lengths" are the Democrats going to as evidenced in this story? The parents were put up to saying what they did by the Democrats?
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