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THE SHORT BUT HAPPY LIFE OF VOTER ID's

 
 
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 22 May, 2014 10:01 am
@edgarblythe,
And the great state is doing all this for Barbara out of the goodness of its heart.
God fuckin bless Texas
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 22 May, 2014 10:06 am
@McGentrix,
You,
Quote:
But, while on the topic, if it prevented one illegal alien from voting then that would be preventing voter fraud, wouldn't it?


What makes you think "one illegal alien can vote" in this country? Show us how he/she does it? They must be 'registered' before they can vote. DUH!
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Thu 22 May, 2014 03:58 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

And the great state is doing all this for Barbara out of the goodness of its heart.
God fuckin bless Texas

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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 24 May, 2014 03:37 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
I find it significant that no conservative has come to this thread to address two state voting fraud and the unreliability of voting machine results.

I did not accept the premise that two-state fraud is primarily Republican, or that it is a greater problem than Democrats using fake names to vote over and over and over in a single election.

I would likely support legislation to combat two-state fraud, should any be proposed.

Any problems with electronic voting machines can be fixed simply by shifting to optical scan ballots.
parados
 
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Reply Sat 24 May, 2014 07:16 am
@oralloy,
Quote:

I did not accept the premise that two-state fraud is primarily Republican, or that it is a greater problem than Democrats using fake names to vote over and over and over in a single election.

Multi state voting is clearly a larger problem than multi registration voting with fake names. There are more convictions for multi state voting and not a single one for fake names.

The problem with registering a fake name is you also have to give a fake address. Fake addresses show up when voting cards are sent to the address. Either the person doesn't live there or the address isn't real. We know this because fake registrations are quite common. Usually a scheme where someone is paid to register voters and pads their total by submitting fake registrants to increase their pay. We see no evidence of anyone ever using those fake registrations to vote.


This is from the 2007 effort to stop voter fraud.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/washington/12fraud.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
Four cases of voting across state lines and zero cases of multiple names used to vote. Most cases are misunderstandings by felons or immigrants about their eligibility. The immigrants charged under the case didn't even vote. They mistakenly registered when handed cards but never voted.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 24 May, 2014 08:44 am
@parados,
parados wrote:
Multi state voting is clearly a larger problem than multi registration voting with fake names. There are more convictions for multi state voting and not a single one for fake names.

Going by convictions doesn't count all the times that Democrats did it and got away with it.
McGentrix
 
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Reply Sat 24 May, 2014 11:14 am
@edgarblythe,
There is no reason they couldn't have accepted an expired drivers license. It's foolish bureaucracy and too much red tape.

Still doesn't mean we should not require valid photo ID. There will always be an exception and governing to the lowest common denominator is poor governing.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 24 May, 2014 11:43 am
@McGentrix,
No, poor governing is taking away the rights of voters to vote - that's guaranteed by our Constitution. Voter ID does nothing but add costs that the GOP cries about at every turn. They cut veteran's benefits, consular security, and extended unemployment benefits, but want to waste money on something that has no problem associated with it. The biggest irony being that the GOP that wants to push voter ID are the ones doing most of the voter crimes.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 24 May, 2014 11:47 am
@McGentrix,
I knew you would defend the oppressors of the vote, no matter what.
parados
 
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Reply Sun 25 May, 2014 07:45 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:


Going by convictions doesn't count all the times that Democrats did it and got away with it.

Claiming they did so without any evidence counts a hell of a lot less then convictions which would be actual evidence. Your ignorance doesn't count as fact.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 25 May, 2014 10:32 am
@parados,
The 'evidence' from oral boy's posts is that he's totally ignorant and stupid. Posting on a2k without any credible source consistently proves the point. His parents and teachers should be embarrassed; he's learned nothing about the facts of life.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Sun 25 May, 2014 06:48 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:

I knew you would defend the oppressors of the vote, no matter what.


Nonsense.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Sun 25 May, 2014 06:51 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

No, poor governing is taking away the rights of voters to vote - that's guaranteed by our Constitution. Voter ID does nothing but add costs that the GOP cries about at every turn. They cut veteran's benefits, consular security, and extended unemployment benefits, but want to waste money on something that has no problem associated with it. The biggest irony being that the GOP that wants to push voter ID are the ones doing most of the voter crimes.


Quote:
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.


Yet there is quite a bit of infringement going on. Especially in the liberal states. Don't talk to me about the constitution and the taking away of rights. You guys have no where to stand on the issue.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 25 May, 2014 06:55 pm
@McGentrix,
I'll 'talk' about the Constitution on a2k as often as I please, and you can't do anything about it. It's called "the freedom of speech." Something you seem ignorant about.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 5 Aug, 2015 03:39 pm
Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals says Texas voter ID law violates Voting Rights Act
Source: Dallas Morning News

AUSTIN — The Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled Wednesday that Texas’ voter ID law violates the Voting Rights Act — but it also said the law is not a “poll tax.”

In a unanimous decision, a three-judge panel also rejected a previous judge’s ruling that the law was discriminatory. The Fifth Circuit sent that portion of the lawsuit back to a federal court.

Read more: http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/2015/08/fifth-circuit-court-of-appeals-says-texas-voter-id-law-violates-voting-rights-act.html/
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 5 Aug, 2015 03:47 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Better late than never.
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