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Donald Sterling

 
 
ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 02:44 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
In any case, he was so very pitiful in those interviews it might in the end aid him in the court of public opinions at least.


didn't you read/hear what people thought of Sterling after the interview? the court of public opinion voted him off the island
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 03:05 pm

On June 22nd, 1941, the American Communist Party,
abruptly n diametrically FLIPPED its demands for American neutrality n pacifism
(while the USSR was allied with the 3rd Reich) to new demands that we
"open a second front" because the nazis attacked their allies, the commies.
I thought that was humorous.

I believe that the left wud be yelling a lot louder,
and on the OTHER side, if Mr. Sterling had said something
controversial which the left LIKES e.g., if he had declared
himself to be a communist, to popular outrage and abhorrence.

THEN, we 'd be hearing leftist screams
of the right to have your own opinion, un-molested.

If George Zimmerman had been a black and Martin had been a white
and thay both did the same things that thay actually did,
I 'd still have rooted for the defendant to succeed.
I support the right of armed self defense, regardless of race,
but I strongly suspect that the left wud have supported
Zimmerman if he had been a black that had killed a white.

If Mr. Sterling had spoken in support of GUN CONTROL,
and the players, in revulsion at the notion of people being
screwn out of their right to "equal protection of the laws"
concerning their 2nd Amendment right to defend their lives and property,
had then threatened a walkout, then the left wud have supported Mr. Sterling
.






David
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BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 03:15 pm
@ehBeth,
Quote:
didn't you read/hear what people thought of Sterling after the interview? the court of public opinion voted him off the island


Not by the polls I had seen to date.
firefly
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 04:34 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:

In any case, he was so very pitiful in those interviews it might in the end aid him in the court of public opinions at least.

What was pitiful was his insistence that, "I'm not a racist," as he continued to express biased views. He has the insight of a fruit-fly. He just doesn't get it. And he's likely always been like that, because he's voiced biased views for a long, long time. In the past, he used his money to help camouflage or distract from his biased views--he could insulate himself with his money. Now that his chickens have come home to roost, he doesn't like that, he can't buy his way out of this one, and he's feeling sorry for himself.

No, I don't think seeming pitiful will aid him in the court of public opinion. He dug himself in even deeper with that interview.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 05:03 pm
@firefly,
Don't forget, there people like Bill, David, et al, who thinks he was shafted in one way or another. Sterling has his advocates for whatever reasons.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 06:17 pm
@BillRM,
the numbers aren't heading in Mr. Sterling's favour (especially in the fan group, which is what the NBA cares about - that's where the money is)

Quote:
While 47% of all Americans think Sterling should be forced to give up his team, that number changes when the poll focuses on people who identify themselves as NBA fans.

Sixty-percent of those who describe themselves as fans of professional basketball support stripping the team of its owner, compared to 41% who are not fans of the NBA.


Quote:
The survey was conducted May 2-4 for CNN by ORC International, with 1,008 adult nationwide – including 307 fans of professional basketball – questioned by telephone. The sampling error among adult Americans is plus or minus three percentage points, while the sampling error among NBA fans 5.5 percentage points.


a week later

Quote:
Donald Sterling has a long way to go if he wants to convince NBA fans he deserves a second chance as owner of the Los Angeles Clippers, according to a new HuffPost/YouGov poll. More than 6 in 10 fans of the sport are ready to force him out.

According to the poll, 55 percent of Americans, including 73 percent of those who say they follow the NBA, approve of the punishments the league has already handed out to Sterling, including a lifetime ban and a $2.5 million fine. Only 28 percent of Americans overall and 18 percent of NBA fans said they disapprove of Sterling's punishment.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/12/donald-sterling-poll_n_5312102.html
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 06:24 pm
@ehBeth,
The NBA demographic runs 45% black 40% white
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/02/which-sports-have-the-whitest-richest-oldest-fans/283626/

So I bet what we have are numbers like 99% of blacks want him gone, and 40% of whites.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 06:30 pm
@hawkeye10,
You're trash; not worth the time of day.
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engineer
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 06:31 pm
@hawkeye10,
Nice link, but missing tennis. I know that 16 million watched the 2012 US Open final for the men with no US player in the mix. I'd like to see the demographics on that.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 06:35 pm
@hawkeye10,
actually if you follow the link to the 2nd survey (and find the earlier CNN one) you'll find that the surveyed groups had too few blacks to split them out in the non-white group
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 06:36 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:
So I bet what we have are numbers like 99% of blacks want him gone, and 40% of whites.


show me the $
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 06:40 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

hawkeye10 wrote:
So I bet what we have are numbers like 99% of blacks want him gone, and 40% of whites.


show me the $


Shouldn't you be wondering why the results were not reported back to us by race? Smells kind of fishy to me.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 06:46 pm
@hawkeye10,
Typical hawk; post some bull shyt made up numbers, then say "it's fishy."
You're the only one who smells around here!
ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 06:51 pm
@hawkeye10,
how much money are you betting?

I know where the numbers are Laughing
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 06:51 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

Shouldn't you be wondering why the results were not reported back to us by race?


1) you didn't follow the link
2) you didn't understand what I posted

how much $
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 06:53 pm
@cicerone imposter,
here is the data

Quote:
On this point majorities of blacks and whites differ markedly. Most blacks (60 percent) think it is acceptable to punish Sterling for the remarks he made in private, while most whites (53 percent) think it is not acceptable.

Looking ahead, 49 percent of Americans think he should be forced to sell the LA Clippers, while 40 percent think he should not. Most African-Americans (71 percent) think Sterling should be forced to sell his team, while whites are divided on the issue.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-sterlings-punishment-poll-reveals-racial-divide/
ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 06:54 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

here is the data

Quote:
Most African-Americans (71 percent) think Sterling should be forced to sell his team,



funny, that doesn't look like 99%

where's the $ ? who will you be donating it to?
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 06:55 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

So I bet what we have are numbers like 99% of blacks want him gone


pony up bucko
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 06:59 pm
@ehBeth,
I am a surprised that the results are not more lopsided considering how far Magic was out in front of this. He prides himself on having his finger on the pulse of black america, but here they are not completely monolithic.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 07:06 pm
@hawkeye10,
You're going to blame Magic for you welching on a bet?
 

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