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Donald Sterling

 
 
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 12:01 am
@firefly,
Bayler was his GM, and they would I am sure talk in private often, but Bayler could not come up with very many quotes from these private conversations, and I am aware of nothing in his lawsuit alleging misconduct in front of the team. Bayler seemed primary justifying his racial charge on the information that he got paid less than a white guy coach. And lets not forget that the racism charge was thrown out by the judge, this case ended up being about age discrimination, and Baylor lost.
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firefly
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 12:08 am
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BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 05:12 am
@cicerone imposter,
You do have one hell of a hard on toward Hawkeye of late for some reason.

In any case, telling a girlfriend in a private conversation that he does not wish her to have public pictures of herself taken with black men although she is free to have any relationship she care to in private up to sleeping with them is hardly the most racist statement ever seen to put it mildly.

I can only wonder if you are always 100 percent PC in your assume to be private conversations with your wife or girlfriend over the years.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 07:08 am
@firefly,
Firefly, u mis-represent Donald's statements. That is mendacious prevarication.
He did not order that blacks be prevented from attending his ball games.
He only objected to his mistress GIVING them free tickets to the games,
which she had done.

He never objected to their buying tickets at the box office.





David
ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 08:52 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
David, you misrepresent Donald's statements. That is mendacious prevarication.


the problem was not tickets to games - the problem was that he didn't want his girlfriend/archivist to post pictures of herself with black people on social media - he didn't want her to be seen with black people

that is what is on the tape

this had to do with color, not tickets
ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 08:55 am
@firefly,
firefly wrote:

Quote:
he is a sick old man who brain is not functioning well.

Well then, perhaps a court should declare him incompetent, appoint a law guardian for him, and have someone handle the sale of his team for him, because, according to you, he's obviously too sick, old, and neurologically impaired, to attend to his business affairs.


I wondered why this had not already happened. Based on bill's observations, it seems Mr. Sterling needs a guardian for financial as well as health matters.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 12:10 pm
@ehBeth,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
David, you misrepresent Donald's statements. That is mendacious prevarication.
ehBeth wrote:
the problem was not tickets to games - the problem was that he didn't want his girlfriend/archivist to post pictures of herself with black people on social media - he didn't want her to be seen with black people

that is what is on the tape

this had to do with color, not tickets
In the tape that I heard,
he wanted her to stop bringing blacks to the games.
Obviously, she was getting them in for free.

He never said that thay shud be prevented from entering
his ball games, IF thay buy tickets at the box office.

The disputed issue was her giving them FREE ADMISSION.


Correct me if I 'm rong, but I dont believe that the commissioner
banned Don for complaining that his mistress was posing for pictures with blacks.
That, by itself, has nothing to do with basketball.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 12:17 pm

It seems very odd to me, that Donald shud tell his mistress
not to associate with her own race.
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 12:20 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
It seems very odd to me, that Donald shud tell his mistress
not to associate with her own race.


He did not do so, as he stated that as long as there was no public pictures of her with black men she was even free to sleep with them if she care to do so.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 12:22 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
He did not want her to post photos of herself with black people on social media.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 12:23 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
You really haven't listened to the tape.
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 12:28 pm
@ehBeth,
Quote:
the problem was not tickets to games - the problem was that he didn't want his girlfriend/archivist to post pictures of herself with black people on social media - he didn't want her to be seen with black people


An my reaction is so what if if he stated in a private conversation he did not care for his girlfriend to be seen with any group of people?

I see zero connected with his private life and his rights to own a sport team.

As I had said before maybe the commissioner if he feel so strongly as to what is in the private minds of the owners he should demand lie detector tests on all the current and future owners to made sure they do not hold "illegal" opinions.
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firefly
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 12:43 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
It seems very odd to me, that Donald shud tell his mistress
not to associate with her own race.

I don't think Sterling thought of her as black, and he seems not to have wanted her to be perceived by others as being black.

He said something to her, on that tape, like, "You're supposed to be a delicate Latina woman."

She reminded him, on that tape, that she was racially mixed.

Race was part of the reason he didn't want her posting pictures of herself with blacks, or bringing them to games as her guests--they raised issues about the race of his mistress--he felt her association with blacks reflected on him in a bad way. This had nothing to do with your nonsense about giving away "free tickets". She had 4 seats for every game, for herself and whoever else she wanted to bring. Sterling, in that tape, told her not to bring blacks as her guests.

His racism, and bias, came through clearly on that tape, as did his plantation mentality regarding his team.

And this wasn't the first time the issue of his being racially biased has come up--it's been an issue for many years--apparently this was the first time his views directly impacted the NBA in such a negative way.

And the impression of him as being racially biased was definitely confirmed in the interview he did with Anderson Cooper after the NBA took action against him.

If you don't want to believe that this man is racially biased, or that such views create definite problems, for a sports organization, when they are expressed by a team owner in a sport dominated by predominantly black players, fine. You don't have to believe those things. But many other people do, and they can understand why the NBA took the action against Sterling that they did.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 12:47 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:
You really haven't listened to the tape.
I heard some of it on TV.
The rest was commentary from the reporters.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 01:06 pm
@firefly,
DAVID wrote:
It seems very odd to me, that Donald shud tell his mistress
not to associate with her own race.
firefly wrote:
His racism, and bias, came through clearly on that tape,
as did his plantation mentality regarding his team.
What is that "mentality" ?



firefly wrote:
If you don't want to believe that this man is racially biased,
or that such views create definite problems, for a sports organization,
when they are expressed by a team owner in a sport dominated by predominantly black players, fine.
I believe that he IS racially biased.
I never denied it. I have just been offering opposition to THOUGHT POLICING.
I stand up in favor of his right to have negative opinions of ME and of MY
English race, if he wanted to do so.

I am opposing political correctness, as I campaign for LIBERTY.





David
firefly
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 01:44 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
I believe that he IS racially biased.
I never denied it. I have just been offering opposition to THOUGHT POLICING.

I don't see this as "thought policing"--this isn't just about thoughts that go on his head that don't affect other people. It is about expressed views, his past and present biased views, and his corresponding actions, that affect others in a negative way. He didn't want to rent housing to black tenants, he told his girlfriend not to pose for pictures with blacks, or bring them to his team's games as her guests. These aren't just "thoughts" they are actions on his part--discriminatory actions.

If this was just about "thought policing" the NBA would have taken action against him a long time ago--there is nothing new about his racial bias.

This time, his racial bias really did affect the NBA. The players, on all the NBA teams reacted, and threatened a walkout, corporate sponsors immediately dropped the Clippers, etc..--and this all happened at the time of the playoffs, which made the impact even worse. The NBA was faced with a major problem of damage control--the organization was being harmed by their association with him, and that included the other owners. Had they not taken immediate action, the damage would have continued and gotten worse.

So I see this as the NBA acting in a self-protective manner, not doing "thought policing".

Sterling is free to hold any views he wants, but views can have repercussions, and Sterling's, now very public, views may not be compatible with being able to own a franchise/team in a black dominated sport, or with his being able to retain membership in the organization that controls that sport--because his presence in that association has now created dissension within it, and brought negative impact to that organization from outside groups. He's become like a malignancy that has to be excised by the NBA before even more damage is done.
firefly
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 01:53 pm
Breaking news...
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NBA Officially Files Charges to Strip Donald Sterling of LA Clippers

The National Basketball Association officially initiated proceedings Monday to officially strip Donald Sterling of his ownership of the Los Angeles Clippers.

“The charge asserts that Mr. Sterling engaged in conduct that has damaged and continues to damage the NBA and its teams,” the league wrote in a statement. “Among other things, Mr. Sterling disparaged African-Americans and ‘minorities'; directed a female acquaintance not to associate publicly with African-Americans or to bring African-Americans to Clippers games; and criticized African-Americans for not supporting their communities.”

The NBA said that these actions “significantly undermine” the league's efforts to promote diversity and inclusion and damage its relationship with fans, owners, players, and marketing partners.

“Mr. Sterling engaged in other misconduct as well, including issuing a false and misleading press statement about this matter,” the statement reads.

Sterling has until May 27 to respond to the charge, per the league's Constitution, and has the right to make a presentation at a special meeting of the NBA Board of Governors scheduled for June 3.

You can read the full NBA announcement here:

http://www.thewrap.com/nba-official-charges-strip-donald-sterling-los-angeles-clippers/


The NBA is now using things Sterling said in the Anderson Cooper interview as well as the remarks he made in the phone conversation with his girlfriend.

ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 02:27 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:
The NBA is now using things Sterling said in the Anderson Cooper interview as well as the remarks he made in the phone conversation with his girlfriend.


gotta feel bad for his lawyers that they've got a client who just doesn't understand keeping shtum
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 02:36 pm
@firefly,
David wrote,
Quote:
I have just been offering opposition to THOUGHT POLICING.


Can you believe it? This guy's an attorney!
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BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 02:39 pm
@ehBeth,
Quote:
gotta feel bad for his lawyers that they've got a client who just doesn't understand keeping shtum


More people have talk themselves behind bars then not and he would have been wise not to made such public statements even when those comments that are in fact true such as Magic having had hundreds if not thousands of groupie sexual partners and as a result have gotten himself HIV and that along with him not matching Sterling aiding of the poor would reduce his rights to throw rocks at Stirling.

After all Sliver had already stated that private morals should be an issue of whether someone should be an owner of a NBA team such as Sterling as an owner and Magic as I want to be owner.

In any case, he was so very pitiful in those interviews it might in the end aid him in the court of public opinions at least.

 

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