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Fri 28 Mar, 2014 09:44 am
" She was his first cousin maternally and his second cousin paternally"?
Looks like his mother and his father were themselves cousins?
Could you get it crystal clear?
Context:
Einstein married Elsa Löwenthal on 2 June 1919, after having had a relationship with her since 1912. She was his first cousin maternally and his second cousin paternally. In 1933, they emigrated to the United States. In 1935, Elsa Einstein was diagnosed with heart and kidney problems and died in December 1936.[36]
First cousins are the children of two siblings. Second cousins are the children of two first cousins. Elsa's mother was the sister of Albert's mother, thus they were first cousins via their mothers. Elsa's father was the nephew of Albert's paternal grandfather. Thus they were second cousins via their fathers. Albert Einstein's parents were not cousins.
Albert and Elsa's mothers were sisters. Their fathers were first cousins.
I think Elsa's mother and father were first cousins. Not Albert's mother and father.
But Albert's mother was was also first cousins with Elsa's father (and a sister to Elsa's mother).
I had to diagram it. I think that's right. It's a little confusing!
The first common ancestor is Albert and Elsa's grandfather.
@Joeblow,
Ok no that's wrong. The common ancestor has to be a great grandparent:
Quote:The second cousin connection is actually quite simple: the common ancestor is a great grandparent,
- See more at:
http://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/family-history-chart.html#sthash.N6t934lu.dpuf
@oristarA,
Ori, I should have made it clear I wasn't certain. I hope someone with a firm grip on it comes by. It's more than a little confusing to me too, and I'm not sure I'm right.
@Joeblow,
Joeblow wrote:
Ori, I should have made it clear I wasn't certain. I hope someone with a firm grip on it comes by. It's more than a little confusing to me too, and I'm not sure I'm right.
Okay. Contrex, could you please confirm the assertion "
The first common ancestor is Albert and Elsa's grandfather"?
@oristarA,
oristarA wrote:
Okay. Contrex, could you please confirm the assertion "The first common ancestor is Albert and Elsa's grandfather"?
The assertion is incorrect.
There now. Are we clear? lol
Argggh. When I tried diagraming again, I came up with my first answer again.
I need coffee.
@Joeblow,
To say it simple in one sentence: Elsa’s and Albert’s mothers were sisters, their fathers were cousins.
@Walter Hinteler,
I'm trying to figure out where I went wrong. I think I attributed the Grandfather to Albert's mother, instead of Albert's father. I also accepted the premise that "2nd cousin" was right, but now I need to look up first cousin, once removed.
Or not