@MontereyJack,
Good summary, MJ. Too bad conservatives don't remember our own history, and repeats their misdeeds over and over again.
@cicerone imposter,
I have always thought he IS water boy.
@RABEL222,
Water boy and ice brain fits.
@coldjoint,
The Pink Prevaricator wrote:
Like Chamberlain appeasing Hitler, like Obama does with Islam?
After that statement, I can only conclude you didn't bother to read the emails that Judicial Watch released.
@parados,
What ice brain fails to understand is that the christian nations have been involved in more atrocities than Islam ever has or will. Most Islam countries are peaceful nations that are not involved in world politics, and most people do not know that they even exist.
The US has over 2.5 million adherents.
From Wiki; the biggest four in the world.
Quote: Adherents
Christianity 2.1 billion
Islam 1.6 billion
Secular[a]/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist ≤ 1.1 billion
Hinduism 1 billion
I concur with ci. Did you actually READ thjose emails, joint? There is nothing in them that's a smoking gun, not even a smoking BB gun, not even a smoking cap pistol (are cap pistols still even legal?) That's the most overblown headline I can remember in a long, long time. the emails are basically what they seem to be--prep for weekend political interview shows, pushing what the administration at that point believed to be the case.
Fitton reads a whole lot into them that just isn't there in the emails themselves, bvause he's clearly bought into the fantasy history you guys have constructed around benghazi and he interprets everything through that astigmatic lens--HEAVY astigmatic lens.
Now if we want a clear case of lying to the public to portray someone as a dynamic leader who wasn't and to push something you REALLY REALLY REALLY want, despite the evidence. let's push back afew years and look at the Bushies' successful attempt to goad us into an endless war. They came into office determined to invade Iraq. They had three or four confliccting reasons for why the country should do it and they couldn't reach agreement on one. So they picked one with some pretty sketchy (and indeed wrong, as it turned out) "evidence", NOT BECAUSE THEY PARTICULARLY THOUGHT IT WAS TRUE BUT BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THAT THEY COULD SELL IT TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. AS IT TURNED OUT, TO THE COUNTRY'S CHAGRIN. THEY WERE RIGHT. THE COUNTRY THOUGHT THEY WERE TELLING THE TRUTH AND BOUGHT THE BOGUSITY THEY FOISTED ON US. It was never the truth. That, my friends, is the GOP-Gross Oligarchic Prevaricators. - Obama is a paragon of virtue by comparison.
Yeah, joint, I agree with you, Fitton's content is definitely bullshit--as Gertrude Stein would have said, There's no "there" there. I read it looking to see how it discredited Obama, and it just flat didn't.
re joint:
And your oft-displayed hatred of Islam is bogus, as well. Do you actually KNOW any actual Muslims, joint? Have you worked with any? I do, and I have, American Muslims. American Muslim women, amongst them. Including people who believed strongly enough to do a hajj. And they were pretty much like anyone else. Native-born Americans. No hatred of America, rather support for the nuts and bolts that keep it running,(small d) democrats working wholeheartedly in a (small d) democracy.
Your demand that everybody must demonize Islam as a whole is just totally racist bullshit. There are some fundamentalist, fanatical Muslims, just as there are some fanatical Christians, and Jews, and Hindus, and even Buddhists, contradiction in terms tho that sounds. But most Muslims around the world, just like most everybody else around the world, don't give a **** about political Islam (or political whatever they might be living under)), they just want to get enough to eat, get an education for their kids, and get a bigger screen TV than the neighbors.
I'm sorry, but your attempt to paint all Muslims, or most, with one brush is totally out of contact with reality.
@coldjoint,
I'm curious how you feel about friends of muslims, Pinkie. Do you like them? Would you ever support them?
@coldjoint,
The Nation of Islam doesn't spout as much hate as you do, Pinkie. And they spout a fair amount of hate rhetoric.