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Congratulations, House Republicans!

 
 
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2014 11:52 am
@coldjoint,
Compare bobsal's posts to your emoticons, cj, and your propagandist posters.

You're embarrassing yourself.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2014 11:56 am
@JTT,
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Compare bobsal's posts to your emoticons,


I am not worried about it. What Boob posts has little to do with what I post. He is just another idiot who enjoys being lied to. It is easier than facing the reality of a terribly inept and traitorous president. And...
http://www.acidpulse.net/images/smilies/mudkip.gifhttp://www.acidpulse.net/images/smilies/muaha.gif
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2014 12:02 pm
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Hillary: Congenital Liar, or Innocent Victim of Vast Right Wing Conspiracy?


I'll go with congenital liar.
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When it comes to veracity, or lack thereof, we must not forget that, in the brutal street war waged for the Democrat presidential nomination in 2008, Hillary once boasted that she was made battle tough and ready for any 3 am call on the Red Phone—- as a result of ducking sniper fire while on a mission in Bosnia for hubby President Clinton.

Unfortunately for the “inevitability queen,” a CBS reporter who had accompanied Hillary on her Bosnia trip in 1996, unearthed a clip of video that totally debunked her “dodging sniper fire” campaign rhetoric.

As reported:

“As has now been conclusively established by video film and news photographs, Hillary Clinton did NOT come under sniper fire in Bosnia in March 1996 when she made a morale-boosting visit to U.S. troops enforcing the 1995 Dayton Peace Agreement. But she is taking plenty of bullets for her over-dramatic accounts of the trip, and acknowledged on Monday that she had made a “misstatement.” She said it should be treated as a “minor blip.”

From that same report, this, in part:

“U.S. Air Force journalist Don Jackson was standing on the back of a flatbed pick-up truck filming the event when Clinton’s plane touched down. Here is his account:

Mrs. Clinton arrived to a flight line full of well-wishers, both military and civilian, accompanied by her staff as well as comedian Sinbad and singer Sheryl Crow who were there to entertain troops.

To set the record straight, there was no enemy fire, and no imminent danger. If there had been any danger, “well-wishers” would not have been allowed on the tarmac, much less allowing me to stand above everyone else on the back of a truck.

And Sinbad and Sheryl Crow would’ve been running for their lives instead of taking the time to be interviewed by yours truly, on the tarmac. Mrs. Clinton’s [claim] is a lie, plain and simple.”

Bottom line: When it comes to the raw truth, Hillary Clinton appears to be uniquely unqualified to critique anyone’s “reliability as a source of information!”

In other words, as William Safire stated so succinctly and flawlessly, Hillary is a “Congenital Liar”.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/64146
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2014 12:05 pm
joint says:
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I'll go with congenital liar.
/ I'll go with victim of right-wing conspiracy
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2014 12:07 pm
@MontereyJack,
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/ I'll go with victim of right-wing conspiracy


I just showed proof that she lied. Show me proof of the right wing conspiracy.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2014 12:10 pm
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Antarctica sets new record for sea ice area


Another huge lie, debunked.
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The new record anomaly for Southern Hemisphere sea ice, the ice encircling the southernmost continent, is 2.074 million square kilometers and was posted for the first time by the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign’s The Cryosphere Today early Sunday morning.


It has to be pretty cold to freeze salt water.
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2014 12:14 pm
joint asks for proof of the right-wing conspiracy agains Hillary:

Benghazi. 20 hearings, umpteen millions of dollars wasted. While the Libyans involved say, yeah, it WAS the video. All simply a purely political ploy to diss Obama and Hillary.
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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2014 12:24 pm
@coldjoint,
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In other words, as William Safire stated so succinctly and flawlessly, Hillary is a “Congenital Liar”.


Do you mean William Safire, Nixon's liar in chief?
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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2014 12:24 pm
@coldjoint,
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In other words, as William Safire stated so succinctly and flawlessly, Hillary is a “Congenital Liar”.


Do you mean the William Safire who was Nixon's liar in chief?
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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2014 12:26 pm
@MontereyJack,
Not very objective of you, Jack. As a member of a USA administration she has to have had her share of doozies.
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2014 12:40 pm
uh, joint, ice caps are fresh water, not salt water. the fresh water freezes out, leavin the salt behind.
further,
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A number of prominent climatologists have discounted the growth of Antarctic sea ice, arguing that it is less significant to global circulation than ice in the Arctic basin.

Walt Meier, formerly of the National Snow and Ice Data Center and currently of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies, has previously said that Antarctic sea ice, which has little ice that survives year to year, is less significant than Arctic sea ice to the climate system.

“While the Arctic has seen large decreases through the year in all sectors, the Antarctic has a very regional signal – with highs in some areas and lows in others,” Meier said in 2013. “And of course, the Arctic volume is decreasing substantially through the loss of old ice. The Antarctic, which has very little old ice, hasn’t much of a volume change, relatively speaking.”
....
According to Meier and some other climatologists, global sea ice area is simply not a metric to consider when examining the climate system
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2014 12:47 pm
and on a broader level why those recent blog posts about sea ice level are crap:
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Science says: Satellites measure Antarctica is gaining sea ice but losing land ice at an accelerating rate, which has implications for sea level rise.

Skeptic arguments that Antarctica is gaining ice frequently hinge on an error of omission, namely ignoring the difference between land ice and sea ice.

In glaciology, and particularly with respect to Antarctic ice, not all things are created equal. Let us consider the following differences. Antarctic land ice is the ice which has accumulated over thousands of years on the Antarctica landmass itself through snowfall. This land ice therefore is actually stored ocean water that once fell as precipitation. Sea ice in Antarctica is quite different as it is generally considered to be ice which forms in salt water primarily during the winter months.


Estimates of Total Antarctic Land Ice Changes and approximate sea level contributions using many different measurement techniques. Adapted from The Copenhagen Diagnosis. (CH= Chen et al. 2006, WH= Wingham et al. 2006, R= Rignot et al. 2008b, CZ= Cazenave et al. 2009 and V=Velicogna 2009)
In Antarctica, sea ice grows quite extensively during winter but nearly completely melts away during the summer (see above). That is where the important difference between antarctic and arctic sea ice exists. Arctic sea ice lasts all the year round, there are increases during the winter months and decreases during the summer months but an ice cover does in fact remain in the North which includes quite a bit of ice from previous years (Figure 1). Essentially Arctic sea ice is more important for the earth's energy balance because when it melts, more sunlight is absorbed by the oceans whereas Antarctic sea ice normally melts each summer leaving the earth's energy balance largely unchanged.

One must also be careful how you interpret trends in Antarctic sea ice. Currently this ice is increasing and has been for years but is this the smoking gun against climate change? Not quite. Antarctic sea ice is gaining because of many different reasons but the most accepted recent explanations are listed below:

•Ozone levels over Antarctica have dropped causing stratospheric cooling and increasing winds which lead to more areas of open water that can be frozen (Gillet 2003, Thompson 2002, Turner 2009).
•The Southern Ocean is freshening because of increased rain, glacial run-off and snowfall. This changes the composition of the different layers in the ocean there causing less mixing between warm and cold layers and thus less melted sea ice (Zhang 2007).
All the sea ice talk aside, it is quite clear that really when it comes to Antarctic ice, sea ice is not the most important thing to measure. In Antarctica, the most important ice mass is the land ice sitting on the West Antarctic Ice Sheet and the East Antarctic Ice Sheet.

Estimates of recent changes in Antarctic land ice (see above) range from losing 100 gigatons/year to over 300 gigatons/year. Because 360 gigatons/year represents an annual sea level rise of 1 mm/year, recent estimates indicate a contribution of between 0.27 mm/year and 0.83 mm/year coming from Antarctica. There is of course uncertainty in the estimations methods but multiple different types of measurement techniques (explained here) all show the same thing, Antarctica is losing land ice as a whole, and these losses are accelerating quickly.

Science says: While the interior of East Antarctica is gaining land ice, overall Antarctica is losing land ice at an accelerating rate. Antarctic sea ice is growing despite a strongly warming Southern Ocean.
It's important to distinguish between Antarctic land ice and sea ice which are two separate phenomena. Reporting on Antarctic ice often fails to recognise the difference between sea ice and land ice. To summarize the situation with Antarctic ice trends:
Antarctic land ice is decreasing at an accelerating rateAntarctic sea ice is increasing despite the warming Southern OceanAntarctic Land Ice is decreasing
Measuring changes in Antarctic land ice mass has been a difficult process due to the ice sheet's massive size and complexity. However, since 2002 the Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment (GRACE) satellites have been able to comprehensively survey the entire ice sheet. The satellites measure changes in gravity to determine mass variations of the entire Antarctic ice sheet. Initial observations found that that most of Antarctic mass loss comes from Western Antarctica (Velicogna 2007). Meanwhile, from 2002 to 2005, East Antarctica was in approximate mass balance. The ice gained in the interior is roughly balanced by the ice loss at the edges. This is illustrated in Figure 1 which contrasts the ice mass changes in West Antarctica (red) compared to East Antarctica (green):
Figure 1. Ice mass changes (solid lines with circles) and their best-fitting linear trends (dashed line) for the West Antarctica Ice Sheet (red) and East Antarctica Ice Sheet (green) for April 2002 to August 2005 (Velicogna 2007).As more GRACE data came in, a clearer understanding of the Antarctic ice sheet emerges. Figure 2 shows the ice mass changes in Antarctica for the period April 2002 to February 2009 (Velicogna 2009) . The blue line/crosses show the unfiltered, monthly values. The red crosses have seasonal variability removed. The green line is the best fitting trend.
Figure 2. Ice mass changes for the Antarctic ice sheet from April 2002 to February 2009. Unfiltered data are blue crosses. Data filtered for the seasonal dependence are red crosses. The best-fitting quadratic trend is shown as the green line (Velicogna 2009).With the longer time series, a statistically significant trend now emerges. Not only is Antarctica losing land ice, the ice loss is accelerating at a rate of 26 Gigatons per year (in other words, every year, the rate of ice loss is increasing by 26 Gigatons per year) It turns out that since 2006, East Antarctica has no longer been in mass balance but is in fact, losing ice mass (Chen 2009). This is a surprising result as East Antarctica has been considered stable because the region is so cold. This indicates the East Antarctic ice sheet is more dynamic than previously thought.
This is significant because East Antarctica contains much more ice than West Antarctica. East Antarctica contains enough ice to raise global sea levels by 50 to 60 meters while West Antarctica would contribute around 6 to 7 meters. The Antarctic ice sheet plays an important role in the total contribution to sea level. That contribution is continuously and rapidly growing.
Antarctic Sea Ice is increasing
Antarctic sea ice has shown long term growth since satellites began measurements in 1979. This is an observation that has been often cited as proof against global warming. However, rarely is the question raised: why is Antarctic sea ice increasing? The implicit assumption is it must be cooling around Antarctica. This is decidedly not the case. In fact, the Southern Ocean has been warming faster than the rest of the world's oceans. Globally from 1955 to 1995, oceans have been warming at 0.1°C per decade. In contrast, the Southern Ocean has been warming at 0.17°C per decade. Not only is the Southern Ocean warming, it is warming faster than the global trend.
Figure 3. Surface air temperature over the ice-covered areas of the Southern Ocean (top). Sea ice extent, observed by satellite (bottom). (Zhang 2007).If the Southern Ocean is warming, why is Antarctic sea ice increasing? There are several contributing factors. One is the drop in ozone levels over Antarctica. The hole in the ozone layer above the South Pole has caused cooling in the stratosphere (Gillet 2003). This strengthens the cyclonic winds that circle the Antarctic continent (Thompson 2002). The wind pushes sea ice around, creating areas of open water known as polynyas. More polynyas lead to increased sea ice production (Turner 2009).
Another contributor is changes in ocean circulation. The Southern Ocean consists of a layer of cold water near the surface and a layer of warmer water below. Water from the warmer layer rises up to the surface, melting sea ice. However, as air temperatures warm, the amount of rain and snowfall also increases. This freshens the surface waters, leading to a surface layer less dense than the saltier, warmer water below. The layers become more stratified and mix less. Less heat is transported upwards from the deeper, warmer layer. Hence less sea ice is melted (Zhang 2007).
In summary, Antarctic sea ice is a complex and unique phenomenon. The simplistic interpretation that it must be cooling around Antarctica is decidedly not the case. Warming is happening - how it affects specific regions is complicated.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2014 12:54 pm
@JTT,
I knew Bill Ayres for awhile in late 60's./early seventies. A good person with a solid sense of ethics and morality.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2014 12:57 pm
@coldjoint,
'cuz nothing faces reality like this:

http://www.acidpulse.net/images/smilies/mudkip.gif
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2014 02:20 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
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'cuz nothing faces reality like this:


You are calling yourself nothing? The IRS is reality. The Benghazi incompetence is reality. The veterans and the NSA spying on the Senate are reality. All these things Obama hasn't gotten to the bottom of, as he loves to say.

Not to mention Islam raising its ugly head with a ferocity not seen since the Middle Ages.

Also the economies failure is his fault, not Bushes. And crying the Republicans hate him. Leaving out the fact that compromise is the thing he won't do. That is reality, and all you do for this asshole(Obama) is shift the blame on anyone or anything.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2014 02:27 pm
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Lois Lerner’s Lawyer has LIED multiple times, says Darrell Issa


Do lawyers lie? Is Obama a lawyer?

http://therightscoop.com/lois-lerners-lawyer-has-lied-multiple-times-says-darrell-issa/

Is Killary a lawyer?
George Bush is not a lawyer.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2014 02:41 pm
http://foxnewsinsider.com/sites/foxnewsinsider.com/files/styles/374/public/062814_france.jpg?itok=uEAyTuXg

What does that tell you?
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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2014 02:51 pm
@coldjoint,
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You are calling yourself nothing?


You are being disingenuous, cj. That's just like lying.


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The IRS is reality. The Benghazi incompetence is reality. The veterans and the NSA spying on the Senate are reality. All these things Obama hasn't gotten to the bottom of, as he loves to say.


The genocides, myriad war crimes, the unrelenting terrorism committed by the USA are all realities too. Much bigger and much more important realities yet you ignore them with great fervour.

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Not to mention Islam raising its ugly head with a ferocity not seen since the Middle Ages.


Your delusion runs deep. It's not Islam its people becoming sick and tired of the usa's rapacious greed, of the usa's illegal invasions of their countries, of the usa's murder and mayhem.
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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2014 02:53 pm
@coldjoint,
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George Bush is not a lawyer.


Just what is your point, you simpleton!!! GWB is an inveterate liar.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2014 02:55 pm
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