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Failed to understand "deny the first player the reward at a cost to himself"...

 
 
Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2014 11:27 am
Would you like to rewrite it in more detailed words?

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ScienceShot: Did Fairness Evolve From Spite?
11 February 2014 7:15 pm1 CommentPearson Scott Foresman/Wikipedia Commons
It seems simple: People are more likely to cooperate if everyone plays fair. But a new study suggests that fairness itself arises from an unlikely source: spite. Researchers made a mathematical model based on the so-called ultimatum game. In it, two players are offered a reward, and the first player makes an offer for how it should be split up. If the second player agrees, then they divide it accordingly. But if the second player refuses, then neither gets the reward. As shown in the image above, depending on the interaction of the players, the outcome can be classified as altruism, cooperation, selfishness, or spite. Previous experiments have shown that, over multiple rounds of the game, a culture of cooperation evolves where everyone makes fair offers. But the new study, published online today in the Proceedings of the Royal Society B, finds that when players start out using multiple different strategies, by making fair or unfair offers, and rejecting or accepting unfair offers, some will act out of spite. These spiteful players deny the first player the reward at a cost to himself. The calculations further show that the antisocial behavior will eventually cause fairness to become the most successful option, because there is no reason to reject a fair offer. In essence, fairness evolves in spite of spite, when players start out using different strategies. Though they warn against generalizing to humans, the researchers point out that if fairness is the basis for a moral society, then paradoxically, spite may have played a role in the evolution of morality.

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JTT
 
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Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2014 01:20 pm
@oristarA,
Considering your level of English, Ori, you should try the rewrite first.
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parados
 
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Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2014 06:49 pm
@oristarA,
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some will act out of spite. These spiteful players deny the first player the reward at a cost to himself.

In order to punish the other player spiteful players will not taking a deal which benefits them.
JTT
 
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Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2014 06:58 pm
@parados,
P: In order to punish the other player spiteful players will not taking a deal which benefits them.

Your sentence is ungrammatical, Parados.
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oristarA
 
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Reply Thu 13 Feb, 2014 10:50 am
@parados,
parados wrote:

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some will act out of spite. These spiteful players deny the first player the reward at a cost to himself.

In order to punish the other player spiteful players will not taking a deal which benefits them.


Thanks.
But you've created another puzzle. "Benefits themselves"? Meaning: We would not like to take it, so the game will be blocked and you will not benefit from the game as well."
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 13 Feb, 2014 04:13 pm
@oristarA,
Hence the notion of 'spite', Ori.

Have you ever heard the idiom,

"She would bite off her nose to spite her face"?
parados
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Reply Thu 13 Feb, 2014 06:10 pm
@oristarA,
Quote:
"Benefits themselves"? Meaning: We would not like to take it, so the game will be blocked and you will not benefit from the game as well."


Yes, that is basically it. Certain people would refuse to accept the largest share just to prevent the other person getting anything if they felt the early negotiations were not in their favor.
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oristarA
 
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Reply Fri 14 Feb, 2014 02:13 am
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

Hence the notion of 'spite', Ori.

Have you ever heard the idiom,

"She would bite off her nose to spite her face"?


The difficult part of understanding this lies in "to spite her face." If it has been written as "She would bite off her nose out of spite of her own face", it will be easier to get.
So she needs a cosmetic surgery?
parados
 
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Reply Fri 14 Feb, 2014 08:07 am
@oristarA,
It usually is used to refer to a person that is full of malice or hate.
This may explain it better.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutting_off_the_nose_to_spite_the_face
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