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Why Can't People Talk in Complete Sentences Anymore?

 
 
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Thu 6 Feb, 2014 07:00 pm
Quote:
Bella said: Am I the last of the people who refuse to use u for you or ur for you're? I can't stand text speak

Do you agree Elv?

"Uh-huh"
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 7 Feb, 2014 12:13 am
@Bella Dea,
Bella Dea wrote:
"Ok" is an abbreviation, like Mr. or Mrs. "Ur" is not an abbreviation for anything.

Also, anymore means something different than any more.

Anymore means "I don't do that anymore.". Any more means "I don't want any more cake."

Hence, my usage of the word "anymore" is correct.
<br /> http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/anymore?q=anymore <br />
I have never written "ur". I 've written u r,
i.e., the correct spelling of those words,
in hope that everyone will abandon the old way.





David
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McTag
 
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Reply Fri 7 Feb, 2014 03:24 am
@JTT,
Quote:
Which turned out to be not so useful.


WE had a discussion last night, during which this point was aired. I was voted down; no-one agreed with me.

Tony pointed out interestingly, as an example

"I could not love you any more", and
"I could not love you anymore"

can have two dramatically different meanings.

So be careful out there.
McTag
 
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Reply Fri 7 Feb, 2014 03:29 am
@McTag,
Come up and see me anytime.
Any time you call is a good time.

What a wonderful, flexible language.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 7 Feb, 2014 03:31 am

I hope that people will talk in compete sentences,
but that thay will all spell them fonetically.





David
McTag
 
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Reply Fri 7 Feb, 2014 03:34 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Fonetikaly?
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 7 Feb, 2014 03:42 am
@McTag,
Maybe.
I 'm un-sure qua that pronunciation.
Do we say fonetikally?
or
fonetikly ?





David
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Fri 7 Feb, 2014 08:56 am
@McTag,
And this is my point. Smile

You said "American English" like it was an insult. Is the Oxford dictionary a POS?
Bella Dea
 
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Reply Fri 7 Feb, 2014 08:58 am
Actually, it's funny you bring that up David because that is how my daughter is being taught right now in school. They encourage phonetic spelling in kindergarden and the early stages of first grade. I don't know if it's because they want to encourage independent writing or what. I figured it was damaging to have them learn a word the wrong way but I'm not a teacher so what do I know.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 7 Feb, 2014 11:05 am
@Bella Dea,
I remember being told by the teacher to: "sound it out",
when learning to read. There r other languages that r fonetic.
Ours shud join them. There remain relatively few English words
that r not presently fonetic. If I were a teacher, I 'd feel guilty
for telling a defenseless kid to add ugh to the word: "tho".
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chai2
 
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Reply Fri 7 Feb, 2014 11:18 am
@Bella Dea,
Bella Dea wrote:

Actually, it's funny you bring that up David because that is how my daughter is being taught right now in school. They encourage phonetic spelling in kindergarden and the early stages of first grade. I don't know if it's because they want to encourage independent writing or what. I figured it was damaging to have them learn a word the wrong way but I'm not a teacher so what do I know.


For some reason this reminds me of the book "Riddley Walker"
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McTag
 
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Reply Fri 7 Feb, 2014 11:47 am
@Bella Dea,

Quote:
You said "American English" like it was an insult.


That was just a little joke.
But Americans are very welcome to have their own version of English if they can't manage the proper stuff.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 7 Feb, 2014 01:05 pm

I DO believe in speaking in complete sentences, however.





David
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Fri 7 Feb, 2014 04:46 pm
Now I am confused, McTag.

Linguistically, what English is considered proper English? Is there such a thing? I assumed that there was one accepted English with many different dialects. Perhaps I am incorrect?
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 7 Feb, 2014 04:49 pm
@Bella Dea,
Bella Dea wrote:
Now I am confused, McTag.

Linguistically, what English is considered proper English?
Is there such a thing? I assumed that there was one accepted English
with many different dialects. Perhaps I am incorrect?
"Accepted" by whom ??
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Fri 7 Feb, 2014 05:19 pm
Apparently McTag. Laughing Wink

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JTT
 
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Reply Fri 7 Feb, 2014 06:09 pm
@Bella Dea,
Bella: Linguistically, what English is considered proper English? Is there such a thing?
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"Proper" is a loaded term that leads, has led to all sorts of silly notions about language, Bella. There is no proper English. There is English that is appropriate to the situation and in this you could say it's proper but again that's a highly misleading term that is best avoided.

Bella: I assumed that there was one accepted English with many different dialects. Perhaps I am incorrect?

Yes, you are incorrect but don't feel bad as you have plenty of company.

McTag plays this game of saying not much, the better to keep himself out of trouble, but it mostly amounts to saying little to nothing constructive as regards the workings of language.
McTag
 
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Reply Sun 9 Feb, 2014 09:57 am
@JTT,

Quote:
McTag plays this game of saying not much, the better to keep himself out of trouble, but it mostly amounts to saying little to nothing constructive as regards the workings of language.


Barry Cryer says, explaining a joke is like dissecting a frog. Nobody laughs, and the frog dies.

Anyway Bella, if you want to know anything about English, ask JTT. He knows about all that stuff.
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 9 Feb, 2014 10:02 am
@McTag,
As I mentioned, and McTag rushes to illustrate,



"McTag plays this game of saying not much, the better to keep himself out of trouble, but it mostly amounts to saying little to nothing constructive as regards the workings of language."

McTag
 
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Reply Sun 9 Feb, 2014 04:43 pm
@JTT,

Au contraire, I think you'll find I answer the questioners' requests clearly, concisely and correctly, and in a form most useful to them. If you want to excercise your self-vaunted superior knowledge, that's up to you, but it appears most of what you post is about self-aggrandisement and is therefore beside the point and not useful: small-minded, bitchy, supercilious, point-scoring stuff.
Notice how the tone of this thread has changed from the beginning up to now. That is your doing, and is regrettable and sad.
 

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