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Kids and Guns by the Numbers

 
 
Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Tue 4 Feb, 2014 06:25 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Don't get all upset, General...here....take my virtual hankie.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 4 Feb, 2014 06:25 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
Most of it is drug gang related strife
qua turf disputes or robberies of the drug sellers.
Until I get a job working for the drug gangs,
I won t worry much about it.


If you take away the large homicide rate of the black community that is driven by the so call war on drugs for the most part the US homicide rate is comparable with the EU nations rates.
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Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Tue 4 Feb, 2014 06:26 am
@BillRM,
Who cares?

Your kids. Your guns. Your bullets.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 4 Feb, 2014 06:26 am
@Lordyaswas,
Remember when u begged to borrow our guns, in the 1940s ?
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 4 Feb, 2014 06:28 am
@Lordyaswas,
Lordyaswas wrote:
Who cares?

Your kids. Your guns. Your bullets.
Yes, not just the bullets,
the entire cartridges.
Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Tue 4 Feb, 2014 06:32 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

Remember when u begged to borrow our guns, in the 1940s ?


Borrow? Borrow? Get your facts right, Billy Bob.

Your ancestors were genuinely brave, and far more principled than you will ever be. They didn't need an armchair.
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Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Tue 4 Feb, 2014 06:33 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

Lordyaswas wrote:
Who cares?

Your kids. Your guns. Your bullets.
Yes, not just the bullets,
the entire cartridges.


And the blood. Don't forget the blood.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 4 Feb, 2014 06:34 am
@Lordyaswas,
Quote:
Don't go getting all hissy at me for stuff that happens in your own back yards while you are on duty.


Speaking of backyards you do not have back yards swimming pools killing your children in large numbers?

Hmm it would seems that you are killing your little ones in must larger numbers in pools then are killed by guns in US homes yearly.

Fill in those damn pools at once..........

Quote:


http://www.bmj.com/content/324/7345/1070

Detailed information on drowning in children is not routinely collected by offices of national statistics. Few studies have been carried out in the United Kingdom, and none has been done on British children abroad.

In 1988-9, two of the authors (AMK and JRS) combined information from national statistical offices, police forces (Royal Life Saving Society), and from a press cutting service (Royal Society for Prevention of Accidents) for a detailed analysis of deaths by drowning in children.1, 2, 3 This analysis found that 149 children had drowned in the United Kingdom during 1998-9. It also identified a safety agenda, which focused on young children in garden ponds and pools and on older children swimming without supervision.

Over the past 10 years there have been initiatives on children's safety in water, particularly swimming. We obtained similar information for 1998-9 to identify changes that have occurred in 10 years and assessed whether these initiatives on safety have been successful.
Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Tue 4 Feb, 2014 06:40 am
@BillRM,
Nice try at deflection, Billy Bob.

Kids will always die accidentally while playing outside. No dispute there whatsoever.
I bet you tried looking for gun deaths first though didn't you? Eh? Eh?

Feel free to carry on looking....I'll give you a hint.....search for Dunblane....a tragedy in Scotland, yeeeeeears ago, and that was a gun psycho rather than accident.

Carry on. (Remember, we're discussing accidentsl gun deaths, just in case you forgot)
Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Tue 4 Feb, 2014 06:50 am
@Lordyaswas,
Just to save you time, here's an eye catching graph for all the deaths recorded in England and Wales for 2011.
Look at the red circle facing approx towards 2 o clock on the dial.... "accident and external"...... try finding accidental shooting.

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2011/oct/28/mortality-statistics-causes-death-england-wales-2010
Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Tue 4 Feb, 2014 07:02 am
@Lordyaswas,
Oh my. I seem to have upset y'all.

Never mind, you can now post here freely, as I have a junction box to wire up before experiencing the mindblowing excitement of cleaning my front windows.

BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 4 Feb, 2014 07:06 am
@Lordyaswas,
My my so thirty deaths in the US yearly by gun accidents to children should be of great concern and over 300 millions guns should be removed from US household as a result but your nation is not willing to save hundreds of your children lives a year by filling in a few tens of thousands of back yard pools as after all children will died from accidents in your words how interesting indeed.

As I said this have nothing to do with the children it just an emotional excuse to be against people owning firearms.

No problem with backyard pools and such that killed thousands of children yearly in the US and hundreds yearly in the UK but twenty to thirty deaths of children in a population of 300 millions by accidents by way of firearms is a good solid reason to removed those firearms from homes.

BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 4 Feb, 2014 07:09 am
@Lordyaswas,
Quote:
I have a junction box to wire up before experiencing the mindblowing excitement of cleaning my front windows.


I would suggest you fill up any backyard pond or pool you might have on your property and then go next door and tell your neighbors they should do the same.

As after all by the numbers having such is far more dangerous to children then guns in your household.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 4 Feb, 2014 07:49 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
My my so thirty deaths in the US yearly by gun accidents to children should be of great concern and over 300 millions guns should be removed from US household as a result but your nation is not willing to save hundreds of your children lives a year by filling in a few tens of thousands of back yard pools as after all children will died from accidents in your words how interesting indeed.

As I said this have nothing to do with the children it just an emotional excuse to be against people owning firearms.

No problem with backyard pools and such that killed thousands of children yearly in the US and hundreds yearly in the UK but twenty to thirty deaths of children in a population of 300 millions by accidents by way of firearms is a good solid reason to removed those firearms from homes.
There is no Constitutional Right
to keep bare swimming pools.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 4 Feb, 2014 07:57 am
@BillRM,
Quote:
There is no Constitutional Right
to keep bare swimming pools.


Take note however no one is attacking the right to have a swimming pool for any reason including the thousands of deaths of children a year but thirty deaths of children by firearm accidents constitution or no constitution is somehow a valid reason to attacked gun owners and gun ownership.

It is emotional bullshit on it very face.
Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Tue 4 Feb, 2014 09:56 am
@BillRM,
Reply to previous attempts to deflect x 3.

I have not once expressed concern on this thread for your American children who get their heads blown off each year.
If they were European children, then my concern would go through the roof as I would be able to at least try through the ballot box to get things changed, but I will again say that the shot children in question here are your children, and if you can just brush it off and go merrily about your business, then why should I expend any emotion over such an obviously trivial matter.

Keep up the good work boys. You are helping make America safe. Very Happy
Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Tue 4 Feb, 2014 09:57 am
@OmSigDAVID,
You tell him, General.


Show him this as well!.....

http://www.edgarsnyder.com/swimming-pool/swimming-pool-statistics.html
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Tue 4 Feb, 2014 10:07 am
@Lordyaswas,
Have they kept track of how many people used guns in self-defense? I'll bet they didn't. I'm willing to bet it won't fit their agenda so they didn't track them.
Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Tue 4 Feb, 2014 10:19 am
@Baldimo,
Good point, Baldimo.

I see what you mean. They could be making the accidental deaths of those children sound a lot worse than what it actually is.

My mind is now at rest.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Tue 4 Feb, 2014 10:29 am
@Lordyaswas,
Now you are playing games. The report the Huff post did was about gun death's. The story starts out with a heart tugging story about a little boy being shot. They have set the tone for a story that is bias from the get go.

You want to only address the shootings of children but that isn't the whole story. I can't help it that you want bias journalism.
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