@Romeo Fabulini,
Quote:Romeo Fabulini: Anyway nowhere does the Bible say suicide is a sin, but I don't think God would like us to do it without very very good reason!]
In some churches sins are very specific things, they are listed, and suicide is listed, so it is a sin, end of story.
There are many points of church doctrine that “are not in the Bible”, does not meant they are not doctrine.
No Trinity, has to be inferred.
But the Trinity is church doctrine in over 90% (as a guess) of the churches, and over half absolutely.
That is churches, not believers. Believers who accept the Trinity are probably in the 99% range.
That comes from the Apostle’s creed.
At one time it was a “test” for new Christians.
Many modern Anabaptists have an injunction against reciting creeds such as this, do not consider them of significance.
Even though they do not use these during church service like other churches, they do for the most part agree with all the points.
I think there are several points in them that are considered ”Biblical”, but you can not go to this verse of this book and see it. It is inferred.
Many churches teach as a Biblical Truth, that the body is god’s temple, so no booze, no caffeine, no tobacco. You can not point to any book or verse where it says this, but it is a Biblical teaching.
So it is with suicide.
You say you can’t find it, they say it is in there.
Manifest Destiny had Biblical justification, but you can not point to the book or verse that contains it. The Puritans found it, and massacred native American women and children (Pequot nation), for the glory of god, and the white man’s Manifest Destiny.
Lots of things can be found in the bible, that others do not see.
In the cre4eds below, the word "catholic" refers not to the Roman Catholic Church, but to the universal church of the Lord Jesus Christ.
A I recall JWs have some problems with some points. Maybe the Resident JW will point out if there is disagreement.
I would be interesting in hearing - but not responding.
I believe in God, the Father Almighty,
the Creator of heaven and earth,
and in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord:
Who was conceived of the Holy Spirit,
born of the Virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died, and was buried.
He descended into hell.
The third day He arose again from the dead.
He ascended into heaven
and sits at the right hand of God the Father Almighty,
whence He shall come to judge the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy *catholic church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and life everlasting.
Amen.
There is also the Nicene Creed:
The Nicene Creed
We believe in one God the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible.
And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds, God of God, Light of Light, Very God of Very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father by whom all things were made; who for us men, and for our salvation, came down from heaven, and was incarnate by the Holy Spirit of the Virgin Mary, and was made man, and was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate. He suffered and was buried, and the third day he rose again according to the Scriptures, and ascended into heaven, and sitteth on the right hand of the Father. And he shall come again with glory to judge both the quick and the dead, whose kingdom shall have no end.
And we believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord and Giver of Life, who proceedeth from the Father and the Son, who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified, who spoke by the prophets. And we believe one holy catholic and apostolic Church. We acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins. And we look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.
