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Reply Thu 16 Jan, 2014 09:48 am
When we refer to the most recent lesson/lecture, is THE optional? Or must it be used?

-Have you any problems about (the) last lesson/lecture?
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tsarstepan
 
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Reply Thu 16 Jan, 2014 09:57 am
@WBYeats,
THE can't be merely an option. It needs to be used in that sentence.

Have you any problems about the last lesson/lecture?
dalehileman
 
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Reply Thu 16 Jan, 2014 12:12 pm
@tsarstepan,
Tsar at the first glance I agree the WB needs the "the"

However the choice depends upon the context. The "the" implies the very last, or the "last last." If however, the reference is the general subject of the lesson/lecture then the "the" could be omitted
dalehileman
 
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Reply Thu 16 Jan, 2014 12:44 pm
@dalehileman,
The clarification

http://able2know.org/topic/231548-1
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WBYeats
 
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Reply Fri 17 Jan, 2014 12:32 am
But won't you say this?:

-Last lesson/lecture, we talked about...

How come THE is not used?
dalehileman
 
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Reply Fri 17 Jan, 2014 11:59 am
@WBYeats,
WB that's really a good q and I don't have the foggiest notion. With BSJ and after a life as a writer I'm continually amazed by such advanced queries of the typical esl

Big help I am

So I asked my Better Half, who is much smarter than I, and she said that perhaps "The" makes the matter less personal affair of the speaker, very subtle distinction
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contrex
 
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Reply Sat 18 Jan, 2014 02:35 am
@dalehileman,
dalehileman wrote:
The "the" implies the very last, or the "last last."


Does it? Consider:

The last time I saw you, you had a beard. (Here 'the' is optional.)

The last time I saw Joe was the day before he was murdered. (Here 'the' is required.)
dalehileman
 
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Reply Sat 18 Jan, 2014 12:31 pm
@contrex,
Thanks Con, I shall have to consult my BH on the issue
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