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I'm beginning to be a bit embarrassed about my off-center political beliefs, but

 
 
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 18 Dec, 2013 08:54 pm
@jcboy,
jcboy wrote:

Romeo Fabulini wrote:

Yeah the only US politician who's impressed me in recent times was Sarah Palin because she was a straight-talking no-bullshit gal!
So there was a media and political conspiracy to discredit her and force her out of the frame.


She's also a dimwit, it figures you'd like her.


I have friends who are dimwits. I consider your remark to be an insult to them.

Sarah Palin would have to become a lot smarter to become a dimwit.
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raprap
 
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Reply Wed 18 Dec, 2013 08:57 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
And your memory is woefully biased--the gas crisis and the 55 mph speed limit were the machinations of Ford, not Carter.

The 1973 oil crisis started in October 1973, when the members of Organization of Arab Petroleum Exporting Countries or the OAPEC (consisting of the Arab members of OPEC, plus Egypt, Syria and Tunisia) proclaimed an oil embargo.

As for Carter's honesty as the POTUS I remember the morning after the failed Iran Hostage rescue where Carter came out in Public and Took Full Responsibility. I also remember the aftermath of the Beirut Marine Corps bombing where Reagan, Meese and Haig ran around trying to find someone to take the blame.

Rap



Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 19 Dec, 2013 04:14 am
@Frank Apisa,
You're so clueless, it's hard to know where to start. I haven't alleged that there is any A2K law that you can only mention what i've mentioned--that's another straw man. Apparently, like Finn, if you didn't make **** up, you'd have nothing to talk about.

When you replay to my post, and take issue with what i've writeen, then i have the right to point out remarks you make which are not relevant because i have not mentioned them--get over it. I specifically addressed what Lash wrote in her opening post, and i specifically did not mention, pots and pans, or occupy Wall Street, or any other such movements. So if you want to babble about occupy Wall Street, replying to my posts is not an appropriate springboard for doing so, and i will always be entitled to point that out.

I have absolutely no interest in your preening yourself on your civic activities over the years. I also have no interest in your snide elitism which is made the more hilarious as it implies some intellectual superiority on your part.

I responded to Lash's opening post, and ignored the link there, which didn't work anyway. You responded to my post, and i responded to yours. I have no interest in your senile ramblings.
Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 19 Dec, 2013 04:27 am
OK, looking back i see that i responded to your post before you responded to mine. That was a big mistake--i consider you an ignorant, not terribly bright, low-life scumbag. You can be assured that in future, if you are not responding to a post of mine, i will have nothing to say to you or about you.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 19 Dec, 2013 07:12 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

You're so clueless, it's hard to know where to start. I haven't alleged that there is any A2K law that you can only mention what i've mentioned--that's another straw man. Apparently, like Finn, if you didn't make **** up, you'd have nothing to talk about.

When you replay to my post, and take issue with what i've writeen, then i have the right to point out remarks you make which are not relevant because i have not mentioned them--get over it. I specifically addressed what Lash wrote in her opening post, and i specifically did not mention, pots and pans, or occupy Wall Street, or any other such movements. So if you want to babble about occupy Wall Street, replying to my posts is not an appropriate springboard for doing so, and i will always be entitled to point that out.

I have absolutely no interest in your preening yourself on your civic activities over the years. I also have no interest in your snide elitism which is made the more hilarious as it implies some intellectual superiority on your part.

I responded to Lash's opening post, and ignored the link there, which didn't work anyway. You responded to my post, and i responded to yours. I have no interest in your senile ramblings.


Go do your feeding, Jabba. It'll settle you down.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 19 Dec, 2013 07:13 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

OK, looking back i see that i responded to your post before you responded to mine. That was a big mistake--i consider you an ignorant, not terribly bright, low-life scumbag. You can be assured that in future, if you are not responding to a post of mine, i will have nothing to say to you or about you.


Sorry, Jabba...you have mistaken me for someone who cares about what you are going to do or not do.
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IRFRANK
 
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Reply Thu 19 Dec, 2013 08:21 am
Lash- I don't believe there is some great conspiracy. I don't think humans are organized enough to make that happen and get away with it. The truth is we humans are very greedy and selfish. We talk about helping others etc., but put a lot more resources into fighting. Sure, some help gets done, but it is overwhelmed by greed and corruption. But I dont think it is organized on a global scale. The websites you linked have a purpose and it is not to disseminate truth. They are selling a point of view. That's politics. We have a propensity to fight and that almost always is the result of interaction. It's prevalent here. Many of these threads dissolve into insults.

In an age where we may have the technical ability to feed the world we mostly fight over the excesses. It's normal human behavior.

It's also easy to organize people in large groups, identify a villain, and attack. It happens all the time. I see it as a waste of time and try to avoid it, not always successfully.
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IRFRANK
 
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Reply Thu 19 Dec, 2013 08:31 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
The saddest aspect of this is not only do so many Americans fail to see the real picture, they actually worship some of these clowns.


Hey, we agree. I think that part of this is the result of improved marketing and sales. The media now has different goals and better tools to sell their misinformation. Plus a lot more opportunity. Compare available airtime today to 20 years ago. People want something to believe. They like being led. Pack mentality is prevalent.
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Thu 19 Dec, 2013 09:30 am
Quote:
Jcboy said (re Sarah Palin): She's also a dimwit, it figures you'd like her.
Frank Apisa said: I have friends who are dimwits. I consider your remark to be an insult to them.Sarah Palin would have to become a lot smarter to become a dimwit.

You couple of softies, I hope you're not scared of girls..Wink
If my Sarah ever becomes Pres, I'm a-tellin' you-
That tub o' lard who runs N. Korea is as good as dead,
Iran's reactors will be rubbled inside a week,
Every mosque in America will be turned into a casino,
A high barbed wire electric fence with guard towers and minefields will go up along the entire US-Mexican border,
Everty muslim city in the mideast will become a huge smouldering radioactive crater..
Have i missed anything out?

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/Sarah-PalinB_zpsb4c0bbbc.jpg~original
blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Thu 19 Dec, 2013 10:10 am
Yes, you forgot The rest of the world will realize the USA has lost it and will ban together, some reluctantly, and destroy us before we destroy the world.
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neologist
 
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Reply Thu 19 Dec, 2013 08:43 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:
.. . . .I don't think I am buying anything, Lash. I honestly feel that WE, the people...are the problem.
Funny you should say that. See Daniel 2:43.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Thu 19 Dec, 2013 11:24 pm
@raprap,
Hey if you want to be a cheerleader for the second worst president to occupy the White House in my lifetime, be my guest.

Obviously you don't care whether the person actually achieves anything, let alone making things worse.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Thu 19 Dec, 2013 11:26 pm
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

You're so clueless, it's hard to know where to start. I haven't alleged that there is any A2K law that you can only mention what i've mentioned--that's another straw man. Apparently, like Finn, if you didn't make **** up, you'd have nothing to talk about.


Gosh you really are obsessed with me. You can't just be nasty to Frank, you have to throw me into the mix too.

Petty Pooch...petty.
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raprap
 
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Reply Fri 20 Dec, 2013 02:03 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Listen Bub, I never said Carter was the best POTUS--I said that Carter was probably the most moral and honest man in the last 50 years to become POTUS. If you bothered to read my initial post you might have realized that in 20th and 21st century US Party politics honesty and morality and is not an asset.

Carter as the second worst POTUS on the last 50 years?---I guess that would validate Carter's assessment that 'George the Lesser' as the worst.

Rap



raprap
 
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Reply Fri 20 Dec, 2013 02:05 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
When Sarah 'the quitter' opens her mouth--you can almost feel the vacuum of space.

Rap
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Fri 20 Dec, 2013 07:21 am
Sarah visits USS Stennis in 2009-
SARAH- "I want to push that red button"
CAPTAIN- "Careful ma'am, that'll start World War 3"
SARAH- "I know, that's why I wat to push it"

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/sub1/Palin-onStennis-Jun09.jpg
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panzade
 
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Reply Fri 20 Dec, 2013 07:47 am
@raprap,
game, set and match rap
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panzade
 
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Reply Fri 20 Dec, 2013 07:49 am
@raprap,
Quote:
As for Carter's honesty as the POTUS I remember the morning after the failed Iran Hostage rescue where Carter came out in Public and Took Full Responsibility.

game, set and match rap
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jcboy
 
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Reply Fri 20 Dec, 2013 05:07 pm
I love listening to news stories about Republican in-fighting. NY Representative Peter King says Tennessee Senator Rand Paul has "disgraced his office" by calling the National Intelligence Director a liar. And Glenn Beck (yes, he still exists and the Tea Party still loves him) called NJ Governor Chris Christie "a fat nightmare" because he's a "progressive" that supports gun control and agrees that climate change is real. He wouldn't says it directly but Beck supports Texas Senator Ted Cruz for President in 2016. LOL! dimwits!

Now off to dinner downtown!
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sat 21 Dec, 2013 01:13 am
@raprap,
Hey Bub, I did read your initial post and you didn't say Carter was "probably the most moral and honest man in the last 50 years to become POTUS," you said he was the only one.

In fact, since you apparently forget just what you wrote, here it is:

Quote:
We've had one honest POTUS in the last 50 years. A man who lived a Christian life with little fanfare, a man of intelligence who required logical persuasion, a man of piety and honor, a man who was willing to place himself at harms way and a man who recognized that all blame was his.


If you want to change your tune now, that's fine, but don't give me crap about not bothering to read what you wrote.

This is a discussion forum, not a bulletin board for posting paens to favorite presidents.

Your comment about Carter being willing to place himself in harm's way is totally unsupportable. As for someone who recognized "that all blame" was his, yes, he did the right thing after the debacle of our attempt to rescue the Iranian hostages, but did he really have a choice? Which president has found himself in the same mess and not taken responsibility? (well, there is that guy Obama)

What other blame did he accept? You remember his speech after the Iranian debacle. Do you remember his infamous "malaise" speech in which he blamed the American people for the mess the country was in?

You seem to think his problem was entirely a matter of not being willing or able to play the political game. That's bunk.

The American people didn't decide not to re-elect him because he was too honest and honorable, they soundly booted him out because he was incompetent. An incompetent leader, not an incompetent politician.

The notion that he was the only decent person to occupy the White House in the last 50 years is bunk as well.

 

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