Why do people deny evolution?

@Quehoniaomath,

Well Quehoniaomath, I see you have completely abandoned your argument that you have researched this topic. That's a good thing because your posts and the sources you claim you have used show you have done no such thing.

But just to clarify how much you have lied to us, let me ask you a simple question about Spetner. On page 108, his math is off by a factor of 500. What does that do to his calculations in your mind?

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@parados,

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Well Quehoniaomath, I see you have completely abandoned your argument that you have researched this topic. That's a good thing because your posts and the sources you claim you have used show you have done no such thing.

But just to clarify how much you have lied to us, let me ask you a simple question about Spetner. On page 108, his math is off by a factor of 500. What does that do to his calculations in your mind?

In a very funny way you are jumping to a lot of conclusions, randomly, it seems.
abandonded? really funny

with regards to Spetner, what are you aiming at?
Just start calculating and the whole house of cards of evolution falls down.
that's all

Isn't it funny? people believe in a more than ridiculous theory for which there is no evidence, but if it is more or les attacked, than a lot of people come to its defense. Sounds like a religion to me, don't you agree?

It's a strange thing, but then again this is a mad mad world.

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The people who push those creationist books and who call evolution a religion have been stopped cold by the courts. You have to have logic on your side to prevail.

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@edgarblythe,

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The people who push those creationist books and who call evolution a religion have been stopped cold by the courts. You have to have logic on your side to prevail.

There is much more to the story but you seem to accept this on face value.

Ah well.

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Ah well. We ask for meat. You give us balls of dirt to eat.

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@edgarblythe,

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You are the only person I know of to make the charge, re human free will. It is bullshit, of course.

Leave it out ed. It's beyond your scope I'm afraid. Once the armchair socialists of the Fabians managed to restore will to the debate by a vote of 47--19 it was obvious that the will of the workers would need to be in the hands of the 47. The new intellectual priesthood.

Some of the rabble-rousers were jailed.

All I said was that the simple logic of equating evolution with gravitation, as Wilso did, I assume with your approval, is that free will is abolished. One mindless force being just like another mindless force.

You use words like bullshit to save yourself following your own logic to its obvious conclusion.

A new intellectual priesthood is banging at the gates using biology instead of sociology. Geology is no more than the extrusion nozzle of nature. This new priesthood hates to admit that it is engineers who have extended life expectancies. Building sewers and piping clean water into everybody's house is not as posh as looking at certain selected little wick things, slithering about on a slide, whilst wearing a white coat and threatening spectacles.

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Free will is more complex than that. Evolution has actually freed us up for more free will than when we were emerging with little more than instinct for a guide. The anti science group wants us to fit a mold, rather than take bold action. The cork is out of the bottle, dude.

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

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Maybe you could stop believing in gravitational theory, then walk off a ******* cliff.

Gravitation has nothing to do with sexual activity except in certain highly refined circumstances which are a closed book to you Wilso.

Evolution is about nothing else but sexual behaviour. Which is a matter you would **** your pants full over if ever you bottled up to look into it.

If that was not the case these debates would not be happening.

Do I understand your argument? You think Evolution is only about sexual behaviour? For a man who has never married, has no offspring and has previously commented he is afraid of women, you lack any credibility regarding sexual activity. Since you are such an upstanding person, I know you would not engage in sexual activity with women outside of the holy state of matrimony. YOU are not a sin-soaked fornicator. I'm not sure if it was the "Shakers", but there was a sect that believed that even sexual congress with your husband or wife was sinful. Not many Shakers are still around.

Oh my God, I never thought about the shame you must live with, realizing your birth was the result of sinful behaviour. It's good you never married, even better you don't have children. Holy crap, how can you even post here knowing that all the other members were born because of the wanton sinful weakness and perverse attraction their mothers and fathers indulged in, oh the shame.

I think I understand your position.

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@edgarblythe,

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The people who push those creationist books and who call evolution a religion have been stopped cold by the courts. You have to have logic on your side to prevail

WOOOOOOOOSSSSHHHHHHH

That's the sound of your statement going right over Quahogs head.

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@Quehoniaomath,

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There is much more to the story but you seem to accept this on face value

Gov Jindahl has been trying his damndest to reconstruct "Scientific Creationism" in Louisiana after Edwards v Aguillard.

Pa, and the rest of Fed District III is now ID and Creationism free In science classes. Even Science and Engineering Fairs have messages oof "Reserve" that state that "Projects of a purely religious nature will not be accepted by the entry review panels "

Your "Preemptive labeling" has been tried and found seriously wanting

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@farmerman,

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Gov Jindahl has been trying his damndest to reconstruct "Scientific Creationism" in Louisiana after Edwards v Aguillard.

Pa, and the rest of Fed District III is now ID and Creationism free In science classes. Even Science and Engineering Fairs have messages oof "Reserve" that state that "Projects of a purely religious nature will not be accepted by the entry review panels "

Your "Preemptive labeling" has been tried and found seriously wanting

But, ohh please, tell me why you still believe in the evolutionhoax.

I am soooooo curious.

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@edgarblythe,

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The people who push those creationist books and who call evolution a religion have been stopped cold by the courts. You have to have logic on your side to prevail.

Courts are nothing to do with science ed. Courts assume free will and science doesn't. Courts are, by definition, contra evolution. They exist to tone evolution down a bit. What you are doing citing courts is ridiculous.

And free will can be guided and if it can be guided then it can be guided scientifically, if only using the normal suck it and see method, and if that is done with religious ceremonies and jungle mumbo what's the difference with posh restaurants with the menu in French, except that the latter pumps up the ego and the former punctures it.

It is the engineer who enables biologists to see more. And the astronomer.

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@Quehoniaomath,

Quehoniaomath wrote:

But, ohh please, tell me why you still believe in the evolutionhoax.

I am soooooo curious.

A better question would be,

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Why is a smart bloke like FM wasting his time arguing with a thick **** like you?

I suppose it's 'cause there's not a lot to do Mid-Atlantic.

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@glitterbag,

I found that very amusing gb. Some of it is true and some of it is not.

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@izzythepush,

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I suppose it's 'cause there's not a lot to do Mid-Atlantic.

So, you are not able either to answer that question then, right?!

Figures.

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@spendius,

Please don't address me any further, I find you unclean and a sick puppy.

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@glitterbag,

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Please don't address me any further, I find you unclean and a sick puppy.

So, if on a forum like this someone agrees with you he is a hero and a saint and when they disagree with your nonsense, they are unclean and a sick puppy?

Please explain.

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@Quehoniaomath,

I am happy to explain my dear one dimensional friend. Spendius has followed me on other threads, and he seems to like peppering his posts with semi vulgar remarks. I especially don't like it when he responds to a question I ask by responding with a verb version of a four letter word starting with F. He's far from a gentleman. I don't require my friends to walk lockstep with me, perhaps you do? Either way it's not important. I put S on ignore periodically when I find him off putting. Later I can click him back in without listening to his obsessive and disturbing views in the quiet period.

You've recently cloaked yourself in a new name, I'm pretty sure that's true. Your writing style and this constant need to know the rational for every comment made is very familiar. But the last time I checked I don't need to inform you of all my likes or dislikes. Think of it as a divine mystery, or don't. If Spendius is your bud, sorry. I don't like or dislike him, sometimes I just need a break from some of the unhealthy rhetoric.

I am puzzled by this content distracting method you use, why would you even be interested in anything I say. You behave very much like OmSigDavid without the pretentious sporadic phonetic shorthand.

I hope that helps, because I won't be wasting anymore time indulging you in these off-topic sidebars.

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@glitterbag,

glitterbag wrote:

I am happy to explain my dear one dimensional friend....

With all due respect, this guy isn't worth even this much explanation. You're simply enabling him. Apparently, his only interest in posting is to receive negative attention.

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@Brandon9000,

Brandon9000 wrote:

glitterbag wrote:
I am happy to explain my dear one dimensional friend....

With all due respect, this guy isn't worth even this much explanation. You're simply enabling him. Apparently, his only interest in posting is to receive negative attention.

You're absolutely correct. There are two topics going on right now that I wish I had never seen let alone respond. The other is that insult slapping circus that singles out one solitary member for ridicule. I need to get off this crazy train
for awhile, within a day or two the momentum will slow and it will be a dim reminder of what not to do. Thanks for the cold water in the face, seriously I really mean thanks.

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