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Why do people deny evolution?

 
 
Helloandgoodbye
 
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Tue 2 Oct, 2018 10:06 am
@OldGrumpy,
Anything other than truth gets a 👎

Intelligent design teachings👍
Biblical teachings 👍

Religion👎
(Ie. evolution, Catholicism, Mormonism, Mysticism etc.)
These teachings do not line up with the facts/truth.
OldGrumpy
 
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Tue 2 Oct, 2018 10:45 am
@Helloandgoodbye,
and?
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OldGrumpy
 
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Tue 2 Oct, 2018 10:49 am
@daverod,
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Evolution is real, just as erosion is real


well, maybe define 'evolution' first, before we continue.
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brianjakub
 
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Tue 2 Oct, 2018 02:53 pm
@Olivier5,
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I doubt Moses and King Shlomo were Catholic...
Judaism is what Jesus completed so it could evolve into Catholicism. That is why we currently label a Jewish person who converted to Catholicism a Completed Jew. It is a logical label.
farmerman
 
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Tue 2 Oct, 2018 03:09 pm
@brianjakub,
A scientist from Rowan Univesrity hs had his latest paper published regarding "bilateral alternating symmetric footprints". No biggie except these foot prints are found in the early part of the Ediacaran Period (from 620 to 590 my). The "Cambrian Explosion"seems to be losing ooomph. (Sept /Oct EARTH mag)
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Olivier5
 
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Tue 2 Oct, 2018 03:53 pm
@brianjakub,
It's only logical from a Catholic perspective. From Jesus' perspective, hmmm... one may doubt that he would recognise the modern Catholic Church as his vicar. From a Jewish perspective, the whole Christian hooplah is at best a pale copy of the Jewish original, and at worse a hoax.

So no, Moses never was a Catholic. The concept of baptism was yet to be invented back then, and the powers of Rome, however eternal, are not retroactive.
brianjakub
 
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Tue 2 Oct, 2018 04:43 pm
@Olivier5,
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It's only logical from a Catholic perspective. From Jesus' perspective, hmmm... one may doubt that he would recognise the modern Catholic Church as his vicar. From a Jewish perspective, the whole Christian hooplah is at best a pale copy of the Jewish original, and at worse a hoax.


Baptism is a physical sacrament that physically and spiritually alters ones body similarly to how the flood physically altered Noah's. Both of those acts (baptism and the flood) took away some of Satan's spiritual powers over men's physical bodies. Moses body carried that in its genes being a descendant of Noah.

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So no, Moses never was a Catholic. The concept of baptism was yet to be invented back then, and the powers of Rome, however eternal, are not retroactive.


You are correct. But, neither the Pope nor myself could be Catholic if Moses had not been a Jewish descendant of Abraham and Noah because I am an adopted brother of Jesus which, was initiated through baptism (which makes the flood a real physical event in ky life with the same physical and spiritual effects) which makes me an adopted descendant of Noah and Moses along with being Jesus' brother.
Setanta
 
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Tue 2 Oct, 2018 10:37 pm
All of which has nothing to do with evolution, of course. It is also a breath-taking display of profound delusion. There was no Noachic flood, and no such covenant. Nor is it even certain evidence that the so-called Jesus existed, although it's not improbable--like that flood bullsh*t.
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Olivier5
 
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Wed 3 Oct, 2018 12:25 am
@brianjakub,
That you believe all this s...tuff is one thing, but it would be unwise to expect anybody else to agree. There never was any worldwide flood, it is materially impossible. And baptism does not alter your body either. I guess you're just too wacko for my taste.
Olivier5
 
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Wed 3 Oct, 2018 03:07 am
@brianjakub,
Also, if Moses was a real historical character, chances are he was Egyptian rather than Hebrew.
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brianjakub
 
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Wed 3 Oct, 2018 07:36 am
@Olivier5,
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There never was any worldwide flood, it is materially impossible. And baptism does not alter your body either.
I believe the flood was a universe wide event that resulted in the end of the ice age so, I agree with you that there was not an actual flood of water. But, the physical changes to your body will be manifested when Jesus returns. Till then hard to physically detect.
Olivier5
 
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Wed 3 Oct, 2018 07:53 am
@brianjakub,
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I believe the flood was a universe wide event that resulted in the end of the ice age ...

I give up.
brianjakub
 
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Wed 3 Oct, 2018 09:51 am
@Olivier5,
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I give up.
That's why you will never understand. Quit asking and you quit learning.

"40 days" as used in the story of the flood by the culture of that time means, "as long as it takes till completion". It could have been 40 million years. One thing is for sure, if we try to figure it out we will. If we give up we won't.
Olivier5
 
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Wed 3 Oct, 2018 10:28 am
@brianjakub,
Oh don't worry about me; I got the Bible all figured out. It's just that my answers are different than yours.
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farmerman
 
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Wed 3 Oct, 2018 03:06 pm
@brianjakub,
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"40 days" as used in the story of the flood by the culture of that time means, "as long as it takes till completion". It could have been 40 million years.
when reality intersects fantasy, its always good to have yet another tale that explains the fantasy. ya know, the Bible sorely needs a glossary of terms.(Ill bet you wont get 3 people to agree with each other). AGI keeps adding new terms into the EoG so theres no confusion. Id really suggest you guys get together and call ameeting
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coluber2001
 
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Wed 3 Oct, 2018 03:08 pm
@Olivier5,
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There never was any worldwide flood. It is materially impossible.


Aw, rats! Another delusion destroyed.

https://alternativemovieposters.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/waterworldbg1.jpg
farmerman
 
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Wed 3 Oct, 2018 03:25 pm
@brianjakub,
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I believe the flood was a universe wide event that resulted in the end of the ice age so, I agree with you that there was not an actual flood of water.

See whatI mean? That's pure looniness and yet youre proud of it.

From the Late Miocene to today, the entire N American Continent was dry land. How do we know this ?. ( To begin with we have Fossil bison and cave bear poo poo, skeletons of land cruising mammals, elephant skeletons in sinkholes and swampy deposits (not Marsh, SWAMP) and evidence of human occupation up and down the continents of NA and SA.)Also, we have various desert deposits, loess piles as big as 20 story buildings, not to mention brmeliad seeds, river meanders, rocks with desert "varnish" only on one side
and lying in sand dunes,Meadowcroft (just to name one), and all kinds of magnetic , aloha track, Thermoluminescence,Optically stimulated thermoluminescence,Electron pin resonance,SHRIMP dating ofC14.
Helloandgoodbye
 
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Wed 3 Oct, 2018 05:23 pm
@farmerman,
I agree, a universe wide ‘flood’ is yet another false teaching which is not biblical.

farmerman, your interpretation of fossils has proven bias and terrible, and any interpretation of geography and such convinces only yourself, and others who believe in evolutionism. (Sry brother)
Just as Jehovah witnesses have the same scripture (evidence) as everyone else, yet are terribly misinterpreting what they see. And they go on and on and on preaching to no end(like yourself and others of the same faith in evolution).

But hey, this is how the world turns, so let’s keep it up! 🎉 haha. I love this subject!


brianjakub
 
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Wed 3 Oct, 2018 05:23 pm
@farmerman,
I don't believe the flood was a worldwide event that happened in the last 200,000 years. I agree with everything in your post I think the flood started millions of years ago. It probably ended hundreds of thousands of years ago.

We should not be looking for evidence of a deluge. We should be looking for catastrophic events and evidence of a pre-flood culture. Maybe one that was not confined to earth and was technologically more advanced than ours. That culture is described in the Bible as a Nephilum.

Might sound crazy but it works better than it all happened by chance from a big bang. And the story is told from the pount of view of an eye witness.
Setanta
 
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Wed 3 Oct, 2018 05:33 pm
Woo-hoo . . . full-blown delusion. At least the mask if off.
 

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