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Why do people deny evolution?

 
 
martinies
 
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Fri 28 Aug, 2015 03:52 am
@hingehead,
Relativity was created by nonlocality as locality.
martinies
 
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Fri 28 Aug, 2015 05:31 am
@martinies,
Nonlocality actualises its self into matter and is the relativity in that actualising its self as the stong and weak forces in matter and is also the relativity acting for matter as a hoste in the respect of time and space and gravity for the matter.
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Guy C
 
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Fri 28 Aug, 2015 06:04 pm
@Quehoniaomath,
Actually it does matter...... a lot! If you are serious in getting to the bottom of the reality of the truth through debate and discussion with your peers. If you really think it doesn't matter then there is not much point in you continuing in the conversation. If things don't matter to you, then there is no point in debating them at all, Is there?
martinies
 
  1  
Sat 29 Aug, 2015 11:45 am
@Guy C,
God must be the relativity in and about matter. So matter matters as much as matter does not matter. Matter is local and relativity is nonlocal. So it dosnt matter. Ok but it matters in a relative way.
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FBM
 
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Sat 29 Aug, 2015 06:52 pm
@Guy C,
Guy C wrote:

...getting to the bottom of the reality of the truth through debate and discussion...


Has this ever happened? Seems to me that the reason we have empirical sciences is precisely because speculative metaphysics never got us anywhere.
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hingehead
 
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Mon 31 Aug, 2015 06:41 pm
Another theory....

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/c9/eb/d2/c9ebd203eddb8267b6e6c6cde2cd9824.jpg
Builder
 
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Mon 31 Aug, 2015 06:45 pm
@hingehead,
My good friend says that we're all born savages.

It takes time to learn to be human.
hingehead
 
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Mon 31 Aug, 2015 09:14 pm
@Builder,
I'd say, on the whole, animals make better humans than humans do.
martinies
 
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Mon 31 Aug, 2015 10:45 pm
@hingehead,
Consciousness is the exact same in all animals. Consciousness is a constant to changing forms its just the human brain can self reflect on actions in its consciousness. Consciousness is non moving relativity.
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Setanta
 
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Tue 1 Sep, 2015 01:11 am
@hingehead,
"The more I see of men, the better I like my dog."

-- Frederick the Great of Prussia
martinies
 
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Tue 1 Sep, 2015 12:08 pm
@Setanta,
Women can be just as irritating. Ha
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Tue 1 Sep, 2015 12:09 pm
@hingehead,
Really?

Based on what?

When a new male takes over a lion pride he, routinely, kills all of the cubs of the fellow he vanquished. And neither lions nor males of a species are the only animals committing infanticide

Dolphin gang rape behavior is not an aberration, nor is their brutalizing of porpoise young. (Tough to lay claim to a genetic imperative with that one)

Mallard drakes are rapists, and to such an extent that females have evolved to the point where, unlike humans, they can "shut the whole thing down," and not have their eggs fertilized

Any number of species we think are cute or noble are capable of cannibalism, and under the right (or wrong) circumstances, elephants have been responsible for considerable ecological damage.

Chimp wars are extremely vicious with the victims often having their faces and genitals torn off.

This is not to pass any judgement what-so-ever on animals.

Humans are of course capable of slaughter on a scale that is far beyond the "worst" animal, and they, now, are even capable of initiating the extinction of their own species.

Individual humans take the vicious brutality of chimps and dolphins to levels no animal has ever shown themselves capable of.

However...When was the last time one pride of lions or one herd of elephants came to the rescue of another that was starving?

What species of animal has established laws about bent behavior and polices itself for it?

What species of animal has ever produced peacemakers?

The notion that animals are more "human" than "humans" is ridiculous, and is born of a overly romantic view of nature as a whole and, at least, a nascent self-loathing as a human.



hingehead
 
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Tue 1 Sep, 2015 04:09 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
You're not even a challenge

http://static2.stuff.co.nz/1233108507/668/578668.jpg

https://iconicphotos.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/beeld-17.jpg?w=700&h=409

http://www.english.illinois.edu/maps/poets/g_l/levine/bomb/nag2.jpg

http://d3819ii77zvwic.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/main19.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/TRcWdlw.jpg

And on the other side





http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/GTY_service_monkey_jt_140118_copy_16x9_608.jpg

Didn't even bother with the evil **** we do to animals, that they don't do back to us.

Quote:
The notion that animals are more "human" than "humans" is ridiculous, and is born of a overly romantic view of nature as a whole and, at least, a nascent self-loathing as a human.


God I love your self-focussed arrogance. You're just awesome. Thanks for the laugh. You're welcome.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Tue 1 Sep, 2015 06:50 pm
@hingehead,
There have been several documented instances of big cats adopting herbivores. They are temporary aberrations resulting from an unsatisfied maternal instinct due to the death of the cat's cubs. They never last and often end up very poorly for the young herbivore. Suggesting that this represents "goodness" is absurd.

Animals, largely, don't do the same sort of "evil ****" humans do to them because they can't. Either because we have bred them to have an extraordinary psychological bond to us - dogs, or because they can't lay their paws, hands or claws on us. Chimps have been known to attack and kill humans both in captivity and the wild and they are pretty vicious when they do. Revenge? Perhaps, but that hardly makes them better than humans.

You are showing photos of war as if this is all the proof you need. Humans can wage war on a massive scale. Other mammals cannot but that doesn't mean that they wouldn't if they could. It's a difference in intelligence and tool capacity not morality. Ants, by the way engage in furious wars that by their scale are as massive as any in which we engage.

I'm not trying to win a challenge of gory photos or feel good videos, but if you are...you win.
hingehead
 
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Tue 1 Sep, 2015 08:38 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
I'm not trying to win a challenge of gory photos or feel good videos, but if you are...you win.


Then please tell me what you are trying to win, by denying the self evident truths in the gory photos, and your wilful blurring of the meaning of human when used as a noun as opposed to an adjective. Because right now your logic is that you're right because animals would be as bad as humans if they were humans, which is the opposite of the argument you started with.

If we stick with your blurring of definitions it would be impossible for a human to be inhuman.

Face it Finn, you just like to take an opposite view for the little thrill it gives you. Which of itself would be fine but your smug and misplaced sense of superiority just makes me want to post this.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/71/0a/16/710a16fb10a352220c4e64ffc400d8e1.jpg

And throw up a little in my mouth.
martinies
 
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Fri 4 Sep, 2015 04:02 am
@hingehead,
D N A is just an example of nothing being something using relativity to be that something.
MontereyJack
 
  1  
Fri 4 Sep, 2015 09:58 am
@martinies,
THAT IS NONSENSE.
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oralloy
 
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Fri 4 Sep, 2015 10:26 am
@hingehead,
hingehead wrote:
http://www.english.illinois.edu/maps/poets/g_l/levine/bomb/nag2.jpg

Is this being offered as an example of human bad behavior???

Enemy weapons factories are legitimate targets.
martinies
 
  1  
Fri 4 Sep, 2015 11:39 am
@oralloy,
Wars are caused by localised identity true identity is nonlocal identity or love . Love is relativity.. Relativity is nonlocality.
martinies
 
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Fri 4 Sep, 2015 05:15 pm
@martinies,
Locality is the relativity inside the entanglment of action. Nolocality is relativity across nonaction. Action is information. An event is an entangled action or entangled relative action. Example water is an entangled relative action between hydrogen n oxygen creating the water. Its the entangled nonlocal relativity that is doing the creating of the local water.
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