Why do people deny evolution?

Ha. But im being serious here. Consciousness is nnonlocal to the event but falls into the event with local attachment.

speed of light is a theory and can never be tested**

I couldn't find anything more dumbed-down:

First guy with a reproducible light speed testing methodology came up with the first estimate in 1676.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%B8mer%27s_determination_of_the_speed_of_light

Where do you get your information?

Fizeau's 1850 Experiment

Your ignorance does not astound me, I was already aware of it.

Krump me old mate evolution created local life forms with there local brains. But evolution did not create the consciouness of any life form as conciousness exists as another dimension beond the realms of c .

Yeah yeah, shouldn't you be huffing paint fumes? I seems to be wearing off a bit, you might need another dose.

Ha . Why is it then krump old chap that you as an observer of the c limit the speed of light are never moving regs that limit. Its because Ya consciousness is the unmoving mover thats why.

How do you arrive at that conclusion? By what criteria are you using? See this is the problem, you want to reference science but your conclusions are not built upon it's method. The sound like conjecture ramblings of someone who knows the words but just jumbles them together hoping it all makes sense. But the thing is, it only makes sense to you, but I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't.

So just so you can't slip away, let me ask again. By what criteria have you determined the consciousness to be unmoving? I don't even know how you could determine it to be non-local. Consciousness isn't infinite in scope otherwise it would overlap. My consciousness is not your consciousness or they would be aware of each other. There isn't just a single consciousness that each person shares. It wouldn't make any sense.

You can go into some metaphysical collective consciousness if you want to but I don't buy it. For me consciousness is based on conditions, and if those conditions are not present, then consciousness does not arise. If you think that is wrong then please explain it.

Ok for something to be non moving which I believe consciousness to be it consciousness would have to be limitless. Non locality as seen in spooky action has no limit to its range of instant action. So I believe consciousness to be nonlocal and therefor limitless. All local action takes place within the limit of c the speedlimit of the event. Spirit would therefor be nonlocal to the event. God is the nonlocality.

The Nonlocal consciousness of the observere is always stationary to c the local speed of light. Lights ref is nonlocal.

Nonsensical, the word you want is nonsensical. All of your idiotic claims are nonsensical.

Another idiot heard from. The distance from the earth to the moon is just less than 240,000 miles. The speed of light is just in excess of 186,282 miles per second. A radio signal traveling from the moon to the earth takes just less than one and half seconds.

Maybe some day soon you will join the 19th century--then you'll only have a few generations to catch up to the rest of us.

Wow if Setanta is giving you crap you really have it bad. I mean I knew you were an idiot but to spark Setanta's interest really means you tip the scale on stupidity.

Yes the photon takes time to go from a to b but a photons frame of reference is zero. In other words no time or space elapses from the photons piont of view in physics. The photon has no time in its frame of ref. So it does not age. Ask fbm he knows the score on the old photons.

More bullsh*t word salad from the master baiter of the thread.

Krumple, Reading your replies got me contemplating the whys and hows of choosing Lord Jesus as my psychological(spiritual) guide. I was one of those typical typed people looking for solace at stressful times in their lives when things go magically wrong. I didn't have much trust in people which led me to a dark place of rage and vengeance. I knew I initially have always loved my parents, brothers and sisters but i was somehow losing that sense. I thought if i lose that part of me i'm not going to last very long in this world. And something made me think of Lord Jesus who is well known for his value towards human life, compassion, family values and morals. They are vital components for our survival. I could not dispute his intelligence, therefore i became a Christian. There are instances that would have prevented me becoming a Christian if Lord Jesus said i must familyhood with other species, i would think he was crazy, especially of the thought of hugging a lion, it'll bite a person's head off, or allowing mosquitoes to bite your baby child naturally you'd kill them or want to kill them. Or if he said that my mother and sisters must obey males like slaves I'd probably want to kill him. I didn't become a Christian because of the afterlife and magical stories about Lord Jesus but rather his family values and morality. The only realistic magic i know of is the power of positive thinking, which for me personally comes from the spirit of Lord Jesus. There is only one issue of Lord Jesus i have really wrestled with and thats the turning to them the other cheek if they slap you on one cheek. I don't believe in defencelessness, especially if you have children. My conclusion to this issue is that he was speaking only to his disciples. His disciples were walking his path, which was proving to humanity that he would never offend any human being because he considers us his children(spiritually that is) I can't believe a teacher of his intelligence would be implying that we should be defenceless, especially if we have children to protect. That's my conclusion to that issue anyway. Generally speaking, I think he is the greatest teacher that will ever be, and is camouflaged in a lot of airy fairy literature. Mind you he did say he was speaking figuratively in one part there.

Setanta I dont think you understand the physics of the photons ref fame me old plum duff.ha

Setant do you know what a frame of ref is. Please dont be embarrassed to ask.

Has martinies ever said anything that made sense?