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Why do people deny evolution?

 
 
Germlat
 
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Wed 1 Jan, 2014 11:52 am
@anonymously99stwin,
Don't you worry..you're covered.
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spendius
 
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Wed 1 Jan, 2014 12:10 pm
@farmerman,
I can get 'em down thumbing and indignantly reaching for the Ignore any time I fancy. And with facts. I don't stoop to smearing respectable university professoresses with lies and innuendos behind their backs and misquoting other posters.

Whatever you really don't think.

What you specialise in is describing what's on the market stalls and ignoring what is going on in the undergrowth. And I don't use esoteric scientific words when I'm addressing an unscientific audience.

Anybody pretending that the undergrowth doesn't exist is probably lurking in it.
JimmyJ
 
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Wed 1 Jan, 2014 12:15 pm
@spendius,
Why is everything you a say a bunch of pseudo-intellectual nonsense?

Fluffing your idiotic posts with vocabulary doesn't fool anyone.
izzythepush
 
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Wed 1 Jan, 2014 01:02 pm
@JimmyJ,
It seems to have had you going for the past few weeks. I'll take what you say about Spendi seriously when you stop jumping through hoops for him.
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neologist
 
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Wed 1 Jan, 2014 01:44 pm
@JimmyJ,
JimmyJ wrote:
Lets not forget that most of these people are Ivy league educated.

They have to cater to a certain group of constituents, which is why some of them act dumber than they really are. Did you know that most presidential speeches have to be written at a 4th grade level? Presidents have actually lost voters for sounding TOO intelligent in the past.
I thought I would come back to this:

If the Ivy League politicians and intellectuals must dumb down their rhetoric, how much more so would Jehovah need to dumb down his message to be understood by the masses through the centuries? The Bible, therefore, is not a scientific treatise. It is a message to the least sophisticated of us, explaining why we have war and crime and sickness and death. And the good news? The gospel? He has provided a remedy.

There is also this disclaimer made by Jesus. (Matthew 11:25) . . .At that time Jesus said in response: “I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to babes. . . That just means you and I have to work harder. I've already done a lot of the work and, at least, can see where I am going. Not there yet, as RF believes he is. But focused.

It's not simply an intellectual decision.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Wed 1 Jan, 2014 01:56 pm
@jcboy,
And if you questioned all of the Americans who say they believe in the theory of evolution, a great many (possibly the majority) really wouldn't have a clue as to what it actually is, just that they've been told it is stupid not to "believe in it."

I wonder why you are saddened by the fact that almost one quarter of the Americans who accept evolution, believe it was created by a higher power? It is as "stupid" to say that there is no higher power and it is to say there is, since neither opinion can be proven.

Tell the truth jcboy, it angers you.
JimmyJ
 
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Wed 1 Jan, 2014 02:01 pm
@neologist,
That's a stretch.
anonymously99stwin
 
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Wed 1 Jan, 2014 02:05 pm
@JimmyJ,
Hopefully each of you are learning from one another.
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spendius
 
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Wed 1 Jan, 2014 02:24 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
It's bound to anger them Finn. The frustration of believing that the public is stupid for it's rejection of their agenda when the real reason is that the public is not stupid must really annoy them.
anonymously99stwin
 
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Wed 1 Jan, 2014 02:29 pm
@spendius,
Am I being politely kicked out of here?
edgarblythe
 
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Wed 1 Jan, 2014 02:30 pm
@spendius,
It's easy to say, is not, is too, repeatedly and then call the opposition names. Razz
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anonymously99stwin
 
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Wed 1 Jan, 2014 02:34 pm
@anonymously99stwin,
So very lost and confused.
spendius
 
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Wed 1 Jan, 2014 02:53 pm
@anonymously99stwin,
Quote:
Am I being politely kicked out of here?


Not by me your worship. You are perfectly entitled, anon, to contribute to your heart's content in any way you think fit.

Most of your posts do not seem to me to require a response from my end of the discussion. That one was an exception.

I have provided a few good reasons why people deny evolution, six or seven, and not a one has been rebutted. Not even acknowledged in any meaning ful way. Hence they keep banging their heads on the question as if answers to it are not what they are looking for.

The problem is probably linked to the propensity of know-alls to think that their outward observations of people are a clue to what is going on inside. Only astute writers of fairy tales can provide clues to that.
edgarblythe
 
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Wed 1 Jan, 2014 02:57 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

It's bound to anger them Finn. The frustration of believing that the public is stupid for it's rejection of their agenda when the real reason is that the public is not stupid must really annoy them.

The one agenda expressed here is to keep truthful evidence from getting buried by the agendas of the religious and mixed up people like spendi.
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vansdad
 
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Wed 1 Jan, 2014 03:05 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Very true to say that creation and evolution can go hand in hand. It could easily be created to evolve. The biblical interpretation is not the only belief when it comes to creation. Just like evolving from another specie altogether isn't the only belief of evolution. The commonality is belief however. Ironic isn't it?
edgarblythe
 
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Wed 1 Jan, 2014 03:13 pm
@vansdad,
A person is perfectly free to believe in a god and still accept evolution. Doesn't bother the science crowd a bit. The problem on this type of thread is, there are very few believers in a god willing to let it happen.
anonymously99stwin
 
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Wed 1 Jan, 2014 03:52 pm
@edgarblythe,
Willing to let what happen?
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anonymously99stwin
 
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Wed 1 Jan, 2014 04:09 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:
Quote:
Not by me your worship. You are perfectly entitled, anon, to contribute to your heart's content in any way you think fit. 
Most of your posts do not seem to me to require a response from my end of the discussion.
That one was an exception. I have provided a few good reasons why people deny evolution, six or seven, and not a one has been rebutted.
Not even acknowledged in any meaning ful way. Hence they keep banging their heads on the question as if answers to it are not what they are looking for. 
The problem is probably linked to the propensity of know-alls to think that their outward observations of people are a clue to what is going on inside.
Only astute writers of fairy tales can provide clues to that.


What heart. I've no desire for anything.

Sh*t I may had said in the past bout being in my heart etc etc you know whichever else, there's nothing there. I have nothing.

I'm seriously fuc*ed up in the head. Till this day I'm alone on this.

What the hell am I supposed to do.

What is there to do but to fu*k around online right.

I've nothing. No desire for anything. Nothing matters.

I'm a no good piece of **** with nothing.

As I've mentioned before. I'm not a threatening individual.

May the truth set you free. So I've heard. I've nothing to hide. Every bit of my life is out there for all to know. I'm fuc*ed up in the head. Have been all my life. But have matured. Gained knowledge. Else more.
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raprap
 
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Wed 1 Jan, 2014 04:27 pm
@edgarblythe,
A long time ago I came to the personal conclusion about the 'Big Kahuna.' The Big Kahuna left clues. The Big Kahuna--left us Integers.

"Die ganzen Zahlen hat der liebe Gott gemacht, alles andere ist Menschenwerk" Leopold Kronecker

Evolution is very binary, and binary numbers are Integers. Evolution is the 'smoke' of the Integers left by the Big Kahuna. It can been seen in the smoke of the discreet mathematics.

Rap

JLMBHCSU

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spendius
 
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Wed 1 Jan, 2014 04:32 pm
@anonymously99stwin,
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So very lost and confused.


From a look at your photo, anon, and from reading your profile, it seems to be the case that we are from totally different cultures and our chances of getting a handle on each other's thought processes are negligible. We are only similar in the biological realm.

I have read that evolution theory in your culture would not have raised an eyebrow. Our kin with animals has long been accepted where I'm guessing you were socialised.

It is only where the Book of Genesis is a cultural foundation that a fuss is made over the subject. We deny kinship with animals. Humanists as well as Christians. The Book of Genesis is where the denial began. The beginning of an epoch. Evolutionists will have to speak for themselves on what an acceptance of kinship with animals means to them. And with plants.

We would be lost and confused if we made an attempt to discuss this matter in your culture because we would not be able to understand you rolling your eyes heavenwards at the sheer banality of it all when it is of such importance to us.

I find the residents in a large village about 10 miles away a bit odd although mass media is slowly bringing us together as I assume is the case at greater distances.

A few years ago a Korean football team and its support staff had to change hotels because there were crucifixes on the walls of the bedrooms.

We are very strange manifestations of humanity seen through the eyes of the vast majority of other times and places.



 

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