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Why do people deny evolution?

 
 
farmerman
 
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Sun 11 Jan, 2015 06:23 am
@Quehoniaomath,
That's it?? All you've done is screamed out "Nyah Nyah Nyah"
How about a little intelligence? Or are you incapable of making a convincing argument?.



Quehoniaomath
 
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Sun 11 Jan, 2015 06:25 am
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Quehoniaomath
 
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Sun 11 Jan, 2015 06:26 am
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Quehoniaomath
 
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Sun 11 Jan, 2015 06:28 am
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Quehoniaomath
 
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Sun 11 Jan, 2015 06:29 am
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Quehoniaomath
 
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Sun 11 Jan, 2015 06:33 am
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farmerman
 
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Sun 11 Jan, 2015 06:42 am
@farmerman,
QUAHOG is a moron and so shall ever be. We can read his crap at leisure.SCREW HIM

Heres the Background in the recent case against the KANSAS Board of Eucation. As you can see, the COPE organization is trying to turn it around on science, saying that "science is a state religion" that forbids others from "Free Expression" of their own religion. So, they seem to accept that their view is religious but they also want to indict High school biology


Quote:
I. Background
The following facts are taken from plaintiffs’ Complaint (Doc. 1) and viewed in the light
most favorable to them. S.E.C. v. Shields, 744 F.3d 633, 640 (10th Cir. 2014) (“We accept as
true all well-pleaded factual allegations in the complaint and view them in the light most
favorable to the [plaintiffs].” (citation and internal quotation marks omitted)). On June 11, 2013,
the Kansas State Board of Education adopted the Next Generation Science Standards (“the
Standards”)4 and the related Framework for K-12 Science Education: Practices, Crosscutting
Concepts and Core Ideas (“the Framework”).5 Plaintiffs allege that the Kansas State Board of
Education’s adoption of the Framework and Standards will cause Kansas public schools to
establish and endorse a non-theistic religious worldview in violation of the Establishment, Free
Exercise, and Speech Clauses of the First Amendment and the Equal Protection Clause of the
Fourteenth Amendment.
More specifically, plaintiffs allege that the Framework and Standards take impressionable
children, beginning in kindergarten, into the religious sphere by leading them to ask ultimate
religious questions such as “what is the cause and nature of life and the universe—‘where do we
come from?’” Pls.’ Compl. (Doc. 1) at ¶ 2. Plaintiffs assert that the Standards fail to inform
4 Plaintiffs incorporate the Standards into their Complaint by reference and state that the Standards
are available at http://www.nextgenscience.org/. Pls.’ Compl. (Doc. 1) at ¶ 1. Defendants have submitted
the Standards as an exhibit to their Memorandum in Support of their Motion to Dismiss (Doc. 30, Ex. B)
(hereinafter, “Standards”).
5 Plaintiffs incorporate the Framework into their Complaint by reference and state that the
Framework is available at http://nap.edu/catalog.php?record_id=13165#. Pls.’ Compl. (Doc. 1) at ¶ 1.
Defendants have submitted the Framework as an exhibit to their Memorandum in Support of their Motion
to Dismiss (Doc. 30, Ex. A) (hereinafter, “Framework”).
3
children objectively about the actual state of our scientific knowledge on these questions in an age appropriate and religiously neutral manner. Instead, plaintiffs claim the Standards use an “Orthodoxy,” called methodological naturalism or scientific materialism, which requires that explanations of the cause and nature of natural phenomena only use natural, material, or mechanistic causes, and must assume that supernatural and teleological or intelligent design conceptions of nature are invalid. Plaintiffs contend that the Standards do not adequately disclose this “Orthodoxy” and use other deceptive methods to lead impressionable children to answer questions about the cause of life with only materialistic or atheistic answers. Plaintiffs characterize this “Orthodoxy” as “an atheistic faith-based doctrine.” Id. (Doc. 1) at ¶ 9. Plaintiffs argue that the purpose of teaching this Orthodoxy is to indoctrinate children by establishing a non-theistic religious worldview rather than delivering an objective and religiously neutral origins science education.
Plaintiffs seek to enjoin the implementation of the Framework and Standards and ask the Court to enter a declaratory judgment finding that the Framework and Standards violate: (1) the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment; (2) the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment; (3) the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment; and (4) the Speech Clause of the First Amendment. Plaintiffs also seek relief in the alternative, requesting an injunction prohibiting defendants from implementing the portions of the Framework and Standards that seek to teach about the origin, nature, and development of the cosmos and life on earth (“origins science”) for children in kindergarten through grade 8 entirely and for grades 9 through 12 unless the origins science instruction also includes additional information such as: “an evidence-based teleological alternative competes with the materialistic explanations


I think this case will be very interesting that, (Since its recently been dismissed by the state court) any future actions will take it to the Fed District and The SUpreme Court (if COPE keeps losing AND HAS THE WILL and WHEREWITHALL TO CONTINUE THE FIGHT). That would mean that this case will be based almost entirely on the validity of evidence and scientific facts. This is the first time when the facts of science may be on trial. (remember, in the SCopes trial, the judge did NOT allow scientific evidence to be presented at all, an in the follow-on cases that began with Epprson and finished with Kitzmiller, all merely accepted the correctness of scientific evidence at its face value. This case (COPE) is making Quahog's argument.

Looks like every 10 years we get these casesfrom ICR and Discovery Institute (and the Koch Brothers).
Im aware that Kochs fund PBS television in ther Science series but I think that, Ive not seen their support statement in recent shows like "Darwins Dangerous Idea"

May we live in interesting times


Quehoniaomath
 
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Sun 11 Jan, 2015 06:45 am
@farmerman,
Quote:
QUAHOG is a moron and so shall ever be. We can read his crap at leisure.SCREW HIM


Well, well, well, Here we have the famous FM AH's again!

It is a good thing, because it proves we touched a nerve!


FML was it something I said? Wink







LOL
farmerman
 
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Sun 11 Jan, 2015 06:56 am
@Quehoniaomath,
or lack thereof. You cant keep hiding. Lemme know when you have something orth debunking.

Do you have any iea how our court system works?

If this goes to the SUpreme Court, you will at least have Scalia on the side of religious indoctrination
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FBM
 
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Sun 11 Jan, 2015 06:58 am
@farmerman,
It's practically impossible to educate someone who doesn't want to be educated. That's why I hate teaching required curriculum classes to freshmen. In one ear and out the other.
farmerman
 
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Sun 11 Jan, 2015 07:07 am
@FBM,

So far quahog has been only quoting from Creationist sites. SO I assume that he buys their stories. He accepts stuff with NO evidence at all, nd yet tries to cast doubt over the kind of evidence that science presents.

Moron is too good a term to describe him.
FBM
 
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Sun 11 Jan, 2015 07:28 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:


So far quahog has been only quoting from Creationist sites. SO I assume that he buys their stories. He accepts stuff with NO evidence at all, nd yet tries to cast doubt over the kind of evidence that science presents.

Moron is too good a term to describe him.



They're a pretty helpless lot when it comes to common sense and evidence-based reasoning. http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html
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DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Sun 11 Jan, 2015 07:31 am
@farmerman,
Whaaa, so tell us again, what is the evidence, that hundreds of thousands of lines of DNA code wrote themselves in a warm pond.................There is no evidence of this.

Next
Quehoniaomath
 
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Sun 11 Jan, 2015 07:55 am
@DNA Thumbs drive,
Don't even try, FM won't get that, seriously!

Actually, I really, really think Fm being a coward and dares not to have a public debate with anyone who questions his religion called evolution!
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Sun 11 Jan, 2015 08:04 am
@Quehoniaomath,
The odd thing, is that evolution is very real, and when the human race brings one celled creatures to Mars, they will radically change to the new environment. This creates God, as us.
Quehoniaomath
 
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Sun 11 Jan, 2015 08:06 am
@DNA Thumbs drive,
Quote:
The odd thing, is that evolution is very real, and when the human race brings one celled creatures to Mars, they will radically change to the new environment. This creates God, as us


What do you mean, evolution is real???
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Sun 11 Jan, 2015 08:10 am
@Quehoniaomath,
Evolution happens, even the Catholic Church accepts this now. My dog, is evolved from the wolf, corn is evolved from teosinte. the thing that evolution can not describe, is where life that evolves came from. DNA is the code of life, it has for a human three billion lines of code, this code is the source of evolution, as random or purposeful changes in this code are the source of evolution. That said, billions of lines of code, can not have written or created themselves, thus God is inferred as a needed source component for DNA.
Quehoniaomath
 
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Sun 11 Jan, 2015 08:14 am
@DNA Thumbs drive,
Quote:
Evolution happens, even the Catholic Church accepts this now. My dog, is evolved from the wolf, corn is evolved from teosinte. the thing that evolution can not describe, is where life that evolves came from. DNA is the code of life, it has for a human three billion lines of code, this code is the source of evolution, as random or purposeful changes in this code are the source of evolution. That said, billions of lines of code, can not have written or created themselves, thus God is inferred as a needed source component for DNA.


Evolution has never happened! It is a hoax and a fairy tale for adult and scientists. That the CC approves it, doesn't mean a thing of course.
First , because they are no scientists. Second, it is the fallacy of authority.
Authority also doesn't say a thing, but nearly the whole of science is build upon it. Hence science is a religion.
So no, I don't accept (macro evolution) at all!

DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Sun 11 Jan, 2015 08:17 am
@Quehoniaomath,
Evolution is not something that has happened. It is happening now, as it always has. Evolution is what allows species to stay viable in an ever changing world, and evolution was created by God.

Why do you deny what you are?
Quehoniaomath
 
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Sun 11 Jan, 2015 08:20 am
@DNA Thumbs drive,
Quote:
Evolution is not something that has happened. It is happening now, as it always has.


There is no proof of that at all!



Quote:
Why do you deny what you are?


What exactly do I deny according to you?
 

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