@MontereyJack,
Quote: No. It does not mean "a conventional relationship" at all.
It is all imagination; conception is based on memory content, it is a mental construct.
Quote:That is a figment of your imagination. You ought to look up "evidence", since you are so into stange definitions.
A figment of the image is just what you are demonstrating here. There is nothing strange about what I'm saying, it is just that you are not much aware of that which is beyond the mind.
Evidence is just something that helps you come to a judgment. Naturally if there is only one and nobody is yet in agreement with the one, it will not be considered as evidence.
Empirical evidence may or may not be there. What difference does it make to the facts? I've already stated, words are not the facts, they only convey them. A hammer is used to hammer a nail in, you don't carry the hammer around with you all day, once you have hammered home the nail, you put hammer down.
Similarly, language is only a tool; an instrument, you use it to help you understand. You are like children who have had their dummies taken away and reacts by sucking their thumbs. You cannot argue with the facts.
Quote:Don't try to go all lit. crit. on us,
Why do you bring the others into it, are you not intelligent enough to work it out for yourself ?
You can convey the fact only in terms of the absolute, otherwise you are only speaking in relative terms. What ever you become aware of in the consciousness it will always be relative to its content. In apperception you see things are as they are an not as they are imagined.
Quote:A"vast body of evidence" is a whole lot of cold hard facts on the ground.
A vast body of evidence is just that, it is only circumstantial and the things within these circumstances which you present as evidence merely helps you to come to an agreement or a conclusion with other people But still it is a relationship amongst people who share the same view point. This does not substantiate or take away from the fact that it is all related by convention. Beside all this applies only to the material. YOU are the fact and it does not need any support from the material. Is there any need of proof of your existence outside of yourself? It is self evident,
For now they may not be any new evidence to suggest that the earth does not orbit around the sun but by the same token it does not negate the possibility that both the sun and the earth may orbit around something else which may not even be in the picture as yet.
Quote:It not a lot of people in general agreement.
It depends on how you look at it. When you look through the filters of the mind you employ the imagination. See things as they are and you will see it as it is.
As long as you see yourself as something tangible in the consciousness, as something personal; you will remain necessarily small indeed. In reality the subject cannot possibly be an object in the consciousness. whatever this consciousness manifests, is only an appearance that you bear witness to.
What is a fact? As a person it means something that relates to a name shape or form "body of evidence" In reality a fact is that which is apperceive in awareness, uncontaminated by desire and fears. The final analysis is this:
AS A BODY/MIND YOU ARE A SLAVE!!!