Why do people deny evolution?

@Romeo Fabulini,

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Well they must have been 16 krap crucified saviours to have let themselves be completely upstaged by a young dood from a bunch of mud huts called Nazareth.

you don't get it. none of them really lived! They are SYMBOLS as jesus was.

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@Quehoniaomath,

But Jesus was SEEN by the entire popualtion of Israel and the Roman garrison, heck he even cured a Roman centurion's servant, so who was it they all saw, Mary Poppins?

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@spendius,

don't be all torn up by Quahog. Of course hes full of clam ****. Its not that Christianity is FAKE, its woefully veritable . Its been every bit as dangerous a movement as that of Islam. Its been the source of discord and terror, of preemptive war and subjugation of entire civilizations. Had that it was a fake.Maybe people would have nipped it in its nascent bud.

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@Romeo Fabulini,

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But Jesus was SEEN by the entire popualtion of Israel and the Roman garrison, heck he even cured a Roman centurion's servant, so who was it they all saw, Mary Poppins?

Question IS where is the evidence you wrote? where?
that it is in a big very flawed book doesn't make it real.

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@Quehoniaomath,

I'm an atheist Q. And an evolutionist. I don't do wrong. I do pragmatism.

I asked you for an alternative. Have you not got one?

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@spendius,

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I'm an atheist Q. And an evolutionist. I don't do wrong. I do pragmatism.

I asked you for an alternative. Have you not got one?

you are making the same mistake a lot of evolutionists make. That there is no alternative doesn't make something true! ONLY EVIDENCE does.
there is none.

But if you are an atheist why are you defending christianity in so many postings?
I am trying to understand now.

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@Quehoniaomath,

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you don't get it. none of them really lived! They are SYMBOLS as jesus was.

What difference would that make even if it were true.

Did you not understand the Butler quote I provided? It was very simple.

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@spendius,

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What difference would that make even if it were true.

Did you not understand the Butler quote I provided? It was very simple.

what difference it would make?????

My God! Are you for real!
we are talking aboiut the fundamentals of christianity.
That's the whole thing, there Is no fundament for christianity!

it is funny to see how the bar changes all the time, first it is not believed than it doesn't matter and so on and so forth.

This is far from being rational, that is for sure.

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Quehon said: Question IS where is the evidence you wrote? where? that it is in a big very flawed book doesn't make it real.

The Bible is simply a listing of humankinds close encounters with offworld beings over many centuries, why should anybody want to make it up?
If your catholic schoolteachers have turned you off religion, I bet they're chuckling at having succeeded.. Wink

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@farmerman,

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don't be all torn up by Quahog.

Where on earth do you dredge up such ridiculous ideas as that fm? I can't imagine a man of your years saying such a silly thing. It's the sort of slimy gambit Apisa tries on.

Powerful movements are dangerous. Name one that has not been a source of discord and terror, of preemptive war and the subugation of anything it could lay its hands on and turn to account. The American project included.

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Maybe people would have nipped it in its nascent bud.

"Maybe" eh? That sort of thing is forlorn hoping. Wishful thinking about what never was and never could have been. Maybe we might have had to do 200 press-ups before being fertile. That would have fixed everything. And the bird of paradise cock performs feats of stamina and perseverance before getting the wings over.

Many tried and using discord and terror, war, and anything else that might work. They even use soft-headed temptations to indulge in depravities when those better methods are not available,in the innocence of never thinking of the downside simply because it takes a long while to arrive and not knowing what the depravities are.

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@spendius,

maybe is a statement of potential condition. Neither you nor I are precognitive. If you believe that you are, then you have more in tune with Quahogs brand than you think.

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@farmerman,

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maybe is a statement of potential condition. Neither you nor I are precognitive. If you believe that you are, then you have more in tune with Quahogs brand than you think.

Working anywhere in proximity to you, fm, must be a bloody nightmare. Or socialising.

Maybe Christianity could have been nipped in the bud is nonsensical.

If I was precognitive I wouldn't be here. I would be out celebrating after cleaning up all the bookies.

You are one seriously silly sod. No wonder you don't like pubs and prefer the isolation of a farm and of vast stretches of open waters.

As a response to the post of mine that tripe is not only ridiculous but incoherent enough to be classed as raving.

Not only have you relied for face saving on Q having me torn up but now you have me in tune with him which you can see from his posts I am not. He, like you, has accused me of being intoxicated. You're in tune with him as a matching pair of complete fuckwits with a slightly different shade of grey for a patina.

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@spendius,

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If I was precognitive I wouldn't be here. I would be out celebrating after cleaning up all the bookies

now that wasn't so difficult was it?

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@Romeo Fabulini,

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The Bible is simply a listing of humankinds close encounters with offworld beings over many centuries, why should anybody want to make it up?
If your catholic schoolteachers have turned you off religion, I bet they're chuckling at having succeeded

funny this one. And no, the teachers hasn't 'turned me off" at all.
It was years later after done lots of research that I found out it is all fake.
why? easy, to control people! For fear of hell! Hell is an invention to make people afraid so they can be manipulated:

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Priest says Hell is an invention of the church to control people
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0StJGwBnPWQ[/i]

And ...you haven't answered my questions. where in hell is the evidence???

Can it be more blatant?

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Romeo proclaimed: The Bible is simply a listing of humankinds close encounters with offworld beings over many centuries, why should anybody want to make it up?
Quehon said: to control people! For fear of hell!
And ...you haven't answered my questions. where in hell is the evidence???

Atheists wouldn't accept ANY evidence! For example even if Jesus appeared to them in person they'd think he was just a hallucination.. Smile

And why should we be scared of hell? It's only for murderers, thieves, perverts, con men, liars, atheists, nonchristians and corrupt politicians etc! Judgement Day is therefore the day God slings out the human trash once and for all, sounds good to me.. Smile

As for control, Christianity is all about NOT controlling anybody, and not letting anybody control you-
"Unlike so many, we do not peddle the word of God for profit...be shepherds of God’s flock that is under your care, not lording it over those entrusted to you" (2 Cor 2:17,1 Peter 5:2-3)
"Jesus saved you from the empty way of life handed you by your forefathers" (1 Pet 1:18 )
"Don't conform to the pattern of this world" (Rom 12:2)
"You were bought at a price, don't serve men" (1 Cor 7:23)
"A friend of the world is the enemy of God" (James 4:4)
"You were dead when you followed the ways of the world" (Eph 2:1/2)
"You died with Christ from this world, so don't keep submitting to its rules" (Col 2:20)
"For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil" (Eph 6:12)

See, nobody can control true Christians, that's why Satan hates it so much, he can only control atheists, nonchristians and assorted religious crackpots and cultists.. Smile

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/satan_the_puppetmaster_zps7db937ca.jpg~original

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@Romeo Fabulini,

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See, nobody can control true Christians, that's why Satan hates it so much, he can only control atheists, nonchristians and assorted religious crackpots and cultists

so only christians then eh? Hmmmmmmmmmm

don't you see it?

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Romeo proclaimed: nobody can control true Christians, that's why Satan hates it so much, he can only control atheists, nonchristians and assorted religious crackpots and cultists
Quehon said: so only christians then eh? Hmmmmmmmmmm
don't you see it?

See what mate?
At school we had a catholic chaplain, he used to stride around in a long black cassock glaring at us boys with a face as sour as ****, he must have put thousands of kids off Jesus over the years.
Not me though, I knew he in no way represented Jesus, nobody controls me.. Smile

PS- I suspect he was part of the headmasters peedophile ring..

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@Romeo Fabulini,

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See what mate?
At school we had a catholic chaplain, he used to stride around in a long black cassock glaring at us boys with a face as sour as ****, he must have put thousands of kids off Jesus over the years.
Not me though, I knew he in no way represented Jesus, nobody controls me..
PS- I suspect he was part of the headmasters peedophile ring..

may be.
But it is more than idiotic and very unhuman to see only the christians as good people.

I have asked this earlier but you don't answer:
How about a baby who is mute and deaf and has a low iq and will never hear of jesus. Is he doomed too?
Or other people who cannot come to know jesus for medical reasons, are they doomed too?
see, what about then?

and, you have yet not defined what a "Catholic' is, btw.
Si, I ask again, what IS a catholic?

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Quehon said: it is more than idiotic and very unhuman to see only the christians as good people.
I have asked this earlier but you don't answer:
How about a baby who is mute and deaf and has a low iq and will never hear of jesus. Is he doomed too? Or other people who cannot come to know jesus for medical reasons, are they doomed too? see, what about then?
and, you have yet not defined what a "Catholic' is, btw.
Si, I ask again, what IS a catholic?

1- Atheists reject Jesus, so how can they be good people? Why don't they like him?
2- When Helen Keller went deaf and blind as a toddler, she learnt to communicate by tapping her fingers on peoples palms.
Years later somebody asked her "What was it like to learn about Jesus for the first time?" to which she answered "I always knew he was there".
In other words no matter what the disability is, they can still sense Jesus is there, even babies.
3- Catholics pray to Jesus's mum and to human "saints" even though the bible doesn't say to do that, so it's therefore just a micky-mouse religion as far as i'm concerned. However, some catholics seem more sensible than that, so I don't want to tar them all the same.. Smile

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@Romeo Fabulini,

But you haven't answered any question of mine.

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