Why do people deny evolution?

@spendius,

Don't ask him nothin about nothin. He just might tell you the truth. Wink

@farmerman,

Wondering if they have a Peet's there. Last I tried Peet's at their place in Berkeley, I loved it.
I bet the Seattle area is full of folks who eschew Starbucks..
Is that true, Neo?

Oh, re the thread, I don't deny evolution. Accepted it right away when I first learned about it, since it made sense, and that was back in the dark ages when I was a catholic teen. It's true I was a science major at my university (my religion phased out in those years), but I was accepting of evolution before all that.

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@farmerman,

We probably have more independent coffee places than any other city. But plenty Starbucks as well

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@spendius,

I think you and farmer are both good guys

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@ossobuco,

Main reason for eschewing Starbucks is the chicken butt owner who sold out the Sonics

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@ossobuco,

ossobuco wrote:

Oh, re the thread, I don't deny evolution. Accepted it right away when I first learned about it, since it made sense, and that was back in the dark ages when I was a catholic teen. It's true I was a science major at my university (my religion phased out in those years), but I was accepting of evolution before all that.

I took the same course as a young Catholic teen. Stayed that way for about 15 years.

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@farmerman,

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I was recently looking over conodont fossils , searching for an index fossil that is indicative of good gas filed rocks. I found these at sveral locations many tens of miles apart and all following a train of earlier conodonts in the rock core. These are extinct critters but have their own unique evolutionary tree. (Just so happens that they and several other associated tricks which I shant reveal) we can pinpoint good "play fields"

That's not science fm. It's no different for looking for a sign saying GENTS in order to find out where to take a leak.

I assume it wasn't you who found out that conodonts were the key to where the gas filled rocks are and that you were simply following the instructions as one does with recipes in cookery books or on the back of the packet of the microwave dinner.

And your success is scientifically known to reduce energy prices which is scientifically known to increase energy consumption.

One might get a glimpse of your philosophy regarding global warming with such simple tools.

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@edgarblythe,

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Don't ask him nothin about nothin. He just might tell you the truth.

What a great song that is eh ed? And the album its on is simply wonderful.

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@neologist,

A fellow landscape architect that I worked with ('s) husband knew one of the originals, and I'm not remembering how, probably school.
I should ask her, she just sent me a holiday card. Miss her. We used to spat. So much for spatting.

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@neologist,

I'm into year 48 now, but it took me a while to know myself, so I'm using age 24 as the starter.

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@ossobuco,

I'm not big on spatter, especially since watching CSI.

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@ossobuco,

ossobuco wrote:

I'm into year 48 now, but it took me a while to know myself, so I'm using age 24 as the starter.

Ahh, to be 24. That's what you're talking about, right?

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@neologist,

I bet fm avoids asking me to define "shtick".

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@spendius,

I'm more interested in PhD MD research.

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@neologist,

Yes, that's when I finished with evolving - by and large - on the religion scenarios re me. To be clear, it's 48 years since.

You may know, or not, that I am not anti religion. That took some more evolving.

I'm one who wept in front of the Guadalupe cathedral, from anger, on a trip to mexico with mexican heritage friends. I didn't go in.* I've been in many cathedrals, mostly since, but not that one.

But common sense shows me the naturality (I make up words) of religion and some of the good that comes from it, so I see it as often a prompt for good. At the same time, I'm almost inherently phobic about do gooders for self esteem or grace points, everyday americans or others.

*Recent readers won't know that the man of the Rosary Crusade, Father Patrick Peyton, was a good friend of my father - my father had something to do with editing his Miracle of Fatima film, probably volunteer at
Family Theater - and said the Rosary at my father's funeral ceremonies. When he was in Chicago, back then, he came to our house for dinner, a few times. My mother invited missionaries, Father Le Sage (sp?) comes to mind.

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@spendius,

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Isn't the difference merely one of time scales?

No. It has to do with taxonomic classification.

Example:

You have a bacteria that is adapting to its environment for the course of several thousand years. 16S rRNA sequencing and DNA/DNA hybridization tell you it has evolved into a new species. This is "microevolution".

You have the same bacteria that continues to evolve for 4 million years (we can track evolutionary history relatively easily by looking at the genome). It has evolved so much and to such an extent in that long period of time that 16S rRNA sequencing and DNA/DNA hybridization tell us it is now a new genus from where it started initially.

That is "macroevolution".

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@neologist,

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You mean I should do research to prove your point? How about just proving your point as does farmerman? He makes a formidable intellectual effort. I never question the evidence he presents, BTW, only his conclusions. I'd happily pop a libation with him anytime. I'd even buy

No. Do the research to educate yourself as to what is and is not scientifically correct.

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@Romeo Fabulini,

....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_pqpHfu4l0

Does that mean christians are nazis?

You are literally too stupid to insult.

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@JimmyJ,

Are you aware that your concept of macroevolution differs from that of farmer?

http://able2know.org/topic/229102-8#post-5526365

BTW, I majored in chemical engineering at Worcester Polytechnic Institute. I am no stranger to research and am far from your subordinate.

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@neologist,

Actually, what I just said coincides perfectly with what he said.

He's talking about taxonomy as well (notice he specifically mentions "below" and "above" species).

Above species=Genus, Family, Order, Class, Phylum, Kingdom, Domain

In any case, as I said before, the terms are not typically given more than a 1-slide mention in beginner Biology classes (since they are creationist in nature).

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