4
   

Canadians Can Never Piss on American Voters/Politicians Ever Again

 
 
Reply Thu 21 Nov, 2013 12:05 pm
http://www.shedoesthecity.com/wp-content/uploads/files/2013/05/rob-ford-protest.jpg
 
Finn dAbuzz
 
  1  
Reply Thu 21 Nov, 2013 06:02 pm
Did this guy give any indication of what a low life he was before the people of Toronto elected him?

We have a few Canadians a regular members of this forum. How did this guy get elected, and why hasn't he been driven out of Toronto on a rail?
hawkeye10
 
  1  
Reply Thu 21 Nov, 2013 06:15 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
Did this guy give any indication of what a low life he was before the people of Toronto elected him?


lets see, elected mayor 2010, and we have

Quote:
During his mayoral campaign, a 1999 arrest of Ford in Miami, Florida for driving under the influence (DUI) and marijuana possession became an election issue when the Toronto Star published details of the arrest. According to the statement recorded by the arresting officer, Ford was acting nervous, had bloodshot eyes and had "a strong odor of an alcoholic beverage on his breath". Ford threw his hands up in the air and told the police officer, "Go ahead, take me to jail."[141][142] When questioned by reporters about the incident, Ford initially denied the DUI charge, saying instead he was arrested because he "refused to give a breath sample".[143] Ford later admitted the DUI conviction, but omitted the marijuana possession.[144] Ford later admitted to the marijuana possession, saying that the marijuana charge had "completely, totally slipped my mind" because the more serious issue during the arrest was the DUI charge.[145] Ford pleaded no contest to the DUI charge, while the marijuana charge was withdrawn. Ford was given a fine.[146]
As councillor
On April 15, 2006, Ford attended a Toronto Maple Leafs hockey game at the Air Canada Centre. Visibly intoxicated and belligerent, he began to insult a couple seated behind him, who were visiting from out of town. Two security guards escorted Ford out of the building. When confronted about the episode three days later by a National Post reporter, Ford initially denied having been at the game. He later told the Toronto Star: "This is unbelievable, I wasn't even at the game, so someone's trying to do a real hatchet job on me, let me tell you", but later on said: "I reflected on it last night, and talked to my family. I came forward and admitted it. That's all I can do. I mean, I'm not perfect," said Ford. "Being in politics, you're in the spotlight all the time. I made a mistake. I made a major mistake. I really regret it."[147]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Ford

so i think it fair to say that voters were in a position to know that he was an angry drunk liar by then.....
0 Replies
 
Finn dAbuzz
 
  1  
Reply Thu 21 Nov, 2013 07:56 pm
Can anyone explain why he was elected?
tsarstepan
 
  1  
Reply Thu 21 Nov, 2013 08:02 pm
@hawkeye10,
Well technically they still can piss on American voters and politicians. They are north of us and thusly could in theory be on higher ground.

Okay, I admittedly don't know enough about Canadian geography and whether they are higher then the US (in terms of feet/meters higher then sea level).

Oh... you didn't mean literally piss on American voters/politicians. Either way they can try to criticize our voters and politicians. Afterall, politics isn't a mere spectator sport. It's a full on contact sport. They can criticize our voters and politicians but they would need to be ready for an immediate round of return fire.
McGentrix
 
  1  
Reply Thu 21 Nov, 2013 08:06 pm
He has run a very tight, fiscally conservative government. People in Toronto liked him.
ehBeth
 
  2  
Reply Thu 21 Nov, 2013 08:09 pm
@McGentrix,
A recent review has indicated that he's wasted a lot of taxpayer money.

A lot of people in the city proper hate him and hated him before.

People in the suburbs foisted him on the city.

Thanks amalgamation.

blerghhhh


Oh well, all of his rights to make decisions and spend our money were taken away from him earlier this week.

The word is that a lot more dirt is still going to be revealed.

Etobicoke is such an armpit. Drugs and the mob.
0 Replies
 
Finn dAbuzz
 
  0  
Reply Thu 21 Nov, 2013 08:10 pm
@tsarstepan,
I'm trying to think of a comparable American mayor...Marion (Bitch Set Me Up) Barry.

Admittedly it didn't take very long.

I think I have a fair idea why DC voters elected Barry.

Does Toronto have a majority of citizens who want free stuff and a mayor who will stick it to The Man?
0 Replies
 
ehBeth
 
  2  
Reply Thu 21 Nov, 2013 08:11 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Money.

He's a rich, entitled asswipe with a lot of people with money who were willing to cover for him.
Finn dAbuzz
 
  2  
Reply Thu 21 Nov, 2013 08:12 pm
@McGentrix,
Now that I know he's a (fiscal) conservative, I still think he's a low-life.
0 Replies
 
ehBeth
 
  1  
Reply Thu 21 Nov, 2013 08:14 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
djjd has always said that all politicians are lousy

I'm not 100% with him, but I'm heading that direction.

Jim Flaherty sticking up for Robbie really sticks in my craw. I'm actually looking forward to the next federal election so I can bark at a couple of Conservatives when they're campaigning in the neighbourhood.

A couple of people in our office known to have a Ford connection have taken leaves of absence.
Finn dAbuzz
 
  1  
Reply Thu 21 Nov, 2013 08:15 pm
@ehBeth,
Funny re: Ford v Barry

Asswipes thousands of miles apart and one is covered by the rich while the other is covered by the poor.

Perhaps there is more equality in the world than some would credit.
0 Replies
 
Finn dAbuzz
 
  1  
Reply Thu 21 Nov, 2013 08:18 pm
@ehBeth,
There aren't enough louse free ones to make djjd wrong.
ehBeth
 
  1  
Reply Thu 21 Nov, 2013 08:19 pm
@hawkeye10,
It's actually been kind of funny (in a weird, sometimes haha way).

I scored tickets to some tapings of a national comedy program. In between the taped portions, the comedian was doing Rob Ford schtick which he kept telling us was not for broadcast. The first taping was before any of the revelations by the police department. Given what came out, the comedian obviously really knew some authentic dirt. The next taping was even more awesome ... with more Ford schtick between the taped portions ... some of it has been revealed by the media since. If the rest is true .... kaboom will go the House of Ford.
0 Replies
 
ehBeth
 
  1  
Reply Thu 21 Nov, 2013 08:29 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
That makes me a bit sad.

I'm certainly not as pie-in-the-sky about the world as I was 30/40 years ago, but people can sure still disappoint me.
0 Replies
 
hawkeye10
 
  1  
Reply Thu 21 Nov, 2013 09:04 pm
this guy reminds me most of a certain former Detroit mayor, corrupt as hell and not very well behaved either who once caught refused to leave office. as I recall the cops had to pretty much carry him out and put him in a jail.

I dont get this not understanding when the gig is up.
0 Replies
 
hawkeye10
 
  0  
Reply Fri 22 Nov, 2013 01:12 am
Toronto’s Golem


Rob Ford delights Canadians by ending their centuries-long reputation for dorkiness.

By Dahlia Lithwick

Quote:
like the aurora borealis on crack, the Rob Ford flameout has streaked across the northern skies for days, weeks, even months longer than any sensible political scandal ought to. Long after it was clear that this whole thing needed to be shut down, the mayor of Toronto has continued to take up air and space in world media coverage. Why are we still reading about this guy? The simple answer is that Canadians are too nice to oust even a batshit crazy leader; the more complicated one is that Toronto doesn’t actually have a mechanism to fully remove a batshit crazy leader from public office since it doesn’t happen much.

But an alternate explanation presented itself to me the other day when someone asked, by way of Facebook, whether I wasn’t desperately embarrassed to be a Canadian this week. And plumbing the arctic depths of my Canadian soul, I discovered the truth: I have never been prouder to be a Canadian in my whole entire life.

I think that after a lifetime of being typecast as the tall guy in the corner in the ribbed turtleneck and ugly Kodiak boots, Canadians may be secretly loving this chance to suggest to the world that deep inside each and every one of us lurks a 300-pound loon perfectly capable of flattening a city council member in his attempt to jump a heckler in the middle of a council meeting. Even the staggering hubris of the 2010 Canadian Winter Olympic effort has nothing on Rob Ford. For the first time since the War of 1812, Canada is looking just a teensy bit id-dy, and let me tell you brother—we kind of love it.


http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/hey_wait_a_minute/2013/11/rob_ford_makes_canadians_proud_the_toronto_mayor_s_antics_make_me_feel_less.html

dahlia might be in a minority of Canadians numbering 1, but still this in an interesting take.

the Olympics? dont remind me, that was so embarrassing.
0 Replies
 
Setanta
 
  2  
Reply Fri 22 Nov, 2013 02:09 am
No one has actually explained how Ford got elected. David Miller, the previous mayor, a Liberal, could have taken the office again in a walk, but he decided to retire to spend time with his family. The Liberals then proceeded to destroy themselves when it came down to two candidates, and neither one would step aside for the other. Ford got 47% of the vote, and his two Liberal opponents--Smitherman and Pantalone--polled just over 47% combined. A single Liberal candidate may well have beaten Ford. As Beth has pointed out, Ford won big in the "pre-amalgamation" suburbs and Smitherman won big in the urban core.

Ford still has wide support in the burbs. Whether or not he will run again, and his fate if he does is anybody's guess. Right now, he's nobody's mayor, other than in name only.
hawkeye10
 
  0  
Reply Fri 22 Nov, 2013 02:54 am
Quote:
Ford’s brusque nature and substance abuse problems were well known before he ran for office, but he was straightforward and conservative, and thus electable, even to many in the business establishment. “People recognized that the city’s economic fundamentals were out of whack, and we needed to fix that,” says Janet Ecker, the president and chief executive of the Toronto Financial Services Alliance and a former conservative politician in the Ontario government. “It’s not like people didn’t realize he was a little rough around the edges. He was elected to be a bull in the china shop. People wanted city hall to be shaken up.” Rob Ford was Ted Cruz in a fat suit.

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-11-18/why-rob-ford-happened#p2
0 Replies
 
hawkeye10
 
  0  
Reply Fri 22 Nov, 2013 03:02 am
@Setanta,
Quote:
David Miller, the previous mayor, a Liberal, could have taken the office again in a walk


Quote:
In any case, little airports, short bridges and other ideological indulgences are a thousand miles off the radar this election season. We don’t just have bigger fish to fry; the kitchen’s on fire. And while Miller didn’t light the match, he didn’t pick up a hose, either. Since Miller came into office, Toronto has drifted far from the ideals its citizens hold dear: cleanliness, efficiency, competent governance, a degree of fiscal solvency, traffic that isn’t as bad as L.A.’s. Only the most determined utopians, innumerates and CUPE members still think this is a model of a high-functioning city. Toronto’s net debt is more than a billion dollars greater than it was in 2004. The 2010 operating budget projects 43 per cent more spending than in 2003, much of it on salaries and benefits to Miller’s purported friends in the unions. (Who, in 2003, would have predicted Miller would ultimately be undone by a garbage strike?) Toronto suffers from an alarming structural deficit and can only scrape by with emergency budget cuts, tax hikes and user fee increases for so long before no one wants to live here anymore.

That said, Miller’s tenure was not a calamity of historic proportions, as some Torontonians believe. For starters, he’s not Mel Lastman. He never made jokes about Kenyans and cannibalism or threatened to kill a reporter

http://www.torontolife.com/informer/features/2010/08/19/seven-long-years/

maybe not
0 Replies
 
 

Related Topics

Obama '08? - Discussion by sozobe
Let's get rid of the Electoral College - Discussion by Robert Gentel
McCain's VP: - Discussion by Cycloptichorn
Food Stamp Turkeys - Discussion by H2O MAN
The 2008 Democrat Convention - Discussion by Lash
McCain is blowing his election chances. - Discussion by McGentrix
Snowdon is a dummy - Discussion by cicerone imposter
GAFFNEY: Whose side is Obama on? - Discussion by gungasnake
 
  1. Forums
  2. » Canadians Can Never Piss on American Voters/Politicians Ever Again
Copyright © 2021 MadLab, LLC :: Terms of Service :: Privacy Policy :: Page generated in 0.03 seconds on 09/18/2021 at 08:46:24