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Thirty years ago today Reagan

 
 
RABEL222
 
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Reply Thu 31 Oct, 2013 11:03 am
@coldjoint,
Like you all he knows how to post is garbage. But also like you he dosent recognize it as garbage. He only knows how to attack and insult and you may start being ignored like him if you dont desist.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 31 Oct, 2013 11:05 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

What are you saying Frank? We cannot trust Islam?


Allow me to repeat what I said:

Yeah, like either of you guys know if he was out of business during those years!

Not a difficult word in there.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 31 Oct, 2013 11:14 am
@Frank Apisa,
Still none of it is responsible the obvious cover up of Benghazi.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 31 Oct, 2013 11:18 am
@RABEL222,
Be still, my heart
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 31 Oct, 2013 11:49 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Still none of it is responsible the obvious cover up of Benghazi.


Would you translate that for me.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 31 Oct, 2013 12:55 pm
@Frank Apisa,
This thread is an attempt to justify Obamas actions by saying Republicans didn't go after Reagan. It doesn't.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 31 Oct, 2013 01:25 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

This thread is an attempt to justify Obamas actions by saying Republicans didn't go after Reagan. It doesn't.


This thread, coldjoint, is one of many trying to expose the abject hypocrisy of the Republican grass-root element.

What happened with Republicans vis-a-vis Reagan is never going to impact on what Obama is or is not doing. But the reaction of grassroots Republicans to what Reagan did...is interesting considering their reaction to what supposedly Obama is doing.

That is a sword that cuts both ways, by the way. We all tend to skew our attitudes.

But the self-righteousness and indignation, considering Republican reaction during the Reagan era...is laughable.

That's all.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 31 Oct, 2013 01:38 pm
@Frank Apisa,
If it was so horrible then why didn't the Dem led House and Senate do something about Reagan. No party is going to go after their own leader and you know it, if you think it will happen then you are living a pipe dream.

Hell the Dems are even having a hard time acknowledging that the Healthcare website is screwed up and that Obama, "misspoke"/lied when he said people could keep their insurance if they were happy with it.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 31 Oct, 2013 01:55 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Hypocrisy does not come from grass roots. It is calculated by community organizers, where have you been?
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 31 Oct, 2013 01:56 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:

If it was so horrible then why didn't the Dem led House and Senate do something about Reagan. No party is going to go after their own leader and you know it, if you think it will happen then you are living a pipe dream.


Try to keep up, Baldimo.

That was what my "two edged sword" comment was covering. We all do it.

Quote:
Hell the Dems are even having a hard time acknowledging that the Healthcare website is screwed up and that Obama, "misspoke"/lied when he said people could keep their insurance if they were happy with it.


If you are saying there are hypocrites on both sides...I have no quarrel.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 31 Oct, 2013 01:56 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Hypocrisy does not come from grass roots. It is calculated by community organizers, where have you been?


If that is supposed to be some kind of intellectual revelation...you missed.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 31 Oct, 2013 01:58 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Missed that part Frank. Wasn't concerned with your exchanges with others in the thread.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 31 Oct, 2013 02:05 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:

Missed that part Frank. Wasn't concerned with your exchanges with others in the thread.


Okay, Baldimo...and thanks for mentioning it.

I think we are in agreement that both sides tends to forgive things in their candidates that they are less forgiving of in the other side.

Human nature.

I found things that Reagan and Dubya did that I considered reprehensible...but I am able to tolerate similar behavior in people like Clinton and Obama.

This can be an eye opener...and has been for me.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Thu 31 Oct, 2013 08:54 pm
@edgarblythe,
Edgar,
I don't know where you got your info, but its wrong. The marine guards were armed and did try to stop the truck with rifle fire.
The marines in Beirut were armed, so your info is 100% wrong.

FYI, I was on the Iwo Jima at the time. It was my first deployment.
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 31 Oct, 2013 09:08 pm
@mysteryman,
Quote:
Thirty years ago today, Americans were devastated by the news of a massive terrorist attack in Lebanon that killed 241 American servicemembers.


Any different number of years ago, on many different days, thousands of people from scores of countries have been slaughtered by the US and to Americans it a huge MEH.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 31 Oct, 2013 09:11 pm
@JTT,
Do you ever say anything different. Or even post different sources?
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 31 Oct, 2013 09:23 pm
@coldjoint,
Still can't handle the truth, can you, CP?

It is hard to reach Americans regarding America. It’s not a place so much as a mindset. For myself, I got out of that mindset quite by accident, but it also took some effort. When confronted by contradictions that made me uncomfortable, I did not stuff them away and ignore them.

-- Mark Tokarski
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 31 Oct, 2013 09:28 pm
@JTT,
You have nothing but two or three articles and your big mouth. The truth has not come out of any.
JTT
 
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Reply Fri 1 Nov, 2013 11:08 am
@coldjoint,
One of the US's first major foreign genocide programs, after the genocidal actions against Native Americans.

You sure are ignorant of your own history, cj.

Quote:

U. S. Imperialism: A Century of Slaughter

by Lance Selfa

International Socialist Review Issue 7, Spring 1999

...

U.S. Drowns Its Opponents in Blood

Whenever the colonial subjects of the U.S. fought back, the U.S. drowned them in blood. As Mark Twain commented on the Philippine war:

We have pacified some thousands of the islanders and buried them; destroyed their fields; burned their villages, and turned their widows and orphans out-of-doors; furnished heartbreak by exile to some dozens of disagreeable patriots; subjugated the remaining ten millions by Benevolent Assimilation, which is the pious new name of the musket; we have acquired property in the three hundred concubines and other slaves of our business partner, the Sultan of Sulu, and hoisted our protecting flag over that swag.

And so, by these Providences of God--and the phrase is the government's, not mine--we are a World Power.

In the 1900-1903 war to conquer the Philippines, the U.S. killed more than 1 million people. In the midst of that war, U.S. Army General Shefter said: "It may be necessary to kill half of the Filipinos in order that the remaining half of the population may be advanced to a higher plane of life than their present semi-barbarous state affords."

Yet the real barbarians are the generals and politicians who run the U.S. military machine. The U.S. is still the only country to use the ultimate weapon of genocide--the atomic bomb. Another horrific example of the destruction the U.S. is prepared to wreak took place during the Vietnam War in the 1960s. By the time the U.S. was finally forced to withdraw in 1975, much of the country had been saturated with chemical weapons, and the war had claimed two million Vietnamese and Cambodian lives.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/American_Empire/Century_Imperialism.html
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 1 Nov, 2013 11:24 am
@JTT,
And is it today? Do you want to go to jail if your father commits a crime?
 

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