morality, drugs, existence

@carnaticmystery,

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A class act!!!

thank you

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A bit out of control, though.

already explained that everything is out of control. you are simply too naive to understand the meaning of this, still believing you have some sort of control over your consciousness.

I know...I know. You keep "explaining" things...and people are not willing to accept your "explanations."

But they will look foolish many years from now when the world will have recognized that you were a prophet in your time.

Get some counselling, CM. You need it.

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@Frank Apisa,

carnaticmystery wrote:

...its cute that you think i will be irritated by you just plainly opposing my views with no evidence, just simple verbal declarations that i am wrong. hahaha.

You have to admit Frank, he's got your card marked... this is you to a tee.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/to_a_T

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@igm,

igm wrote:

carnaticmystery wrote:

...its cute that you think i will be irritated by you just plainly opposing my views with no evidence, just simple verbal declarations that i am wrong. hahaha.

You have to admit Frank, he's got your card marked... this is you to a tee.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/to_a_T

I doubt seriously that CM has anybody's card marked....whatever that means.

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@Frank Apisa,

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Yes, yes, yes, CM. Almost all of the world is unable to fathom the incredibly complex thinking that you are bringing to it.

yes, but poor choice of words. nobody is unable to, its just that nobody wants to, like you. anybody, if they actually investigated the truth of what i am saying, would accept it. only people with a vested interest in keeping their individuality alive, like yourself, will continue to oppose my views.

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CM...in all seriousness...get some counselling. You definitely need it.

ok, i will get counselling. please recommend your full detailed mental health plan for me, and i will follow it. only to show you that no such definitions of mental health or sanity apply to me, nor do i care whether others label me as such.

haha, you just don't seem to understand that there is absolutely no angle by which you can offend me, but it is fun to watch you keep trying.

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@Frank Apisa,

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I know...I know. You keep "explaining" things...and people are not willing to accept your "explanations."

well, actually many are willing. you are one of the few who are not. either way i don't care, this argument would have actually been more fun for me if everyone was unanimously against me. i would have more idiotic claims to easily dispel.

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But they will look foolish many years from now when the world will have recognized that you were a prophet in your time.

anyone who reads this thread will see that any idea of prophecy or religiosity to my words came from you, and i categorically denied it every time. it is a foolish attempt on your part to think that you can get anybody else to believe your pathetic story that i am trying to be prophetic.

do prophets say that nothing exists? to take drugs as much as you want? to do whatever you want? and that all of it is the same as the 'god' that every religion points to?

if that is the definition of prophets, then yes i am a prophet, and happy to be one.

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Get some counselling, CM. You need it.

ah i see, this is your new repetitive 'insult', just showing your naive understanding of mental health. educate yourself buddy, there is still time.

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@Frank Apisa,

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I doubt seriously that CM has anybody's card marked....whatever that means.

wow, that is a common expression, disappointed you didn't understand it. it means i see through you, and i agree with igm, it is certainly the case. you are just simply so transparent, because you are at the exact level i was a few years ago. i also was holding onto 'i don't know', 'agnosticism', and 'individuality' with everything my ego could handle. unfortunately and obviously, universal intelligence is much more powerful than an individual mind, and does break through eventually.

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@carnaticmystery,

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i don't want anything. i don't care what is fine with you or your interests. nothing is not good or bad.

Ok, have a neutral nothing then.

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@carnaticmystery,

carnaticmystery wrote:

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Yes, yes, yes, CM. Almost all of the world is unable to fathom the incredibly complex thinking that you are bringing to it.

yes, but poor choice of words. nobody is unable to, its just that nobody wants to, like you. anybody, if they actually investigated the truth of what i am saying, would accept it. only people with a vested interest in keeping their individuality alive, like yourself, will continue to oppose my views.

Right...everyone in the world just doesn't want to understand and fathom the incredible complex thinking you are bringing to it.

Just listen to the nice music...stay calm.

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CM...in all seriousness...get some counselling. You definitely need it.

ok, i will get counselling. please recommend your full detailed mental health plan for me, and i will follow it. only to show you that no such definitions of mental health or sanity apply to me, nor do i care whether others label me as such.

haha, you just don't seem to understand that there is absolutely no angle by which you can offend me, but it is fun to watch you keep trying.

That is just great, CM. We are both having fun. It's a win/win conversation.

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@carnaticmystery,

carnaticmystery wrote:

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I know...I know. You keep "explaining" things...and people are not willing to accept your "explanations."

well, actually many are willing. you are one of the few who are not. either way i don't care, this argument would have actually been more fun for me if everyone was unanimously against me. i would have more idiotic claims to easily dispel.

Aha...so now it is just a few who do not "get it"...and I am among the "few" who will not see the incredibly deep thinking and wondrous insights you are bringing to the table.

Hey, that is an improvement.

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But they will look foolish many years from now when the world will have recognized that you were a prophet in your time.

anyone who reads this thread will see that any idea of prophecy or religiosity to my words came from you, and i categorically denied it every time. it is a foolish attempt on your part to think that you can get anybody else to believe your pathetic story that i am trying to be prophetic.

Remember what I said. Listen to the nice music...and stay calm. All will be better.

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do prophets say that nothing exists? to take drugs as much as you want? to do whatever you want? and that all of it is the same as the 'god' that every religion points to?

if that is the definition of prophets, then yes i am a prophet, and happy to be one.

Blue Danube Waltz would be great. Play it...and just lose yourself in it. Shouldn't be that hard for you...since you and nothing else exists.

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Get some counselling, CM. You need it.

ah i see, this is your new repetitive 'insult', just showing your naive understanding of mental health. educate yourself buddy, there is still time.

Okay...I will.

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@Olivier5,

Olivier5 wrote:

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i don't want anything. i don't care what is fine with you or your interests. nothing is not good or bad.

Ok, have a neutral nothing then.

Wrong, bliss and happiness come from not opposing the ineffable... the one thing it's not is a, 'neutral nothing'... that maybe is the seeming paradox... It's just around the corner but you can't see it from your angle.

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@carnaticmystery,

carnaticmystery wrote:

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I doubt seriously that CM has anybody's card marked....whatever that means.

wow, that is a common expression, disappointed you didn't understand it. it means i see through you, and i agree with igm, it is certainly the case. you are just simply so transparent, because you are at the exact level i was a few years ago. i also was holding onto 'i don't know', 'agnosticism', and 'individuality' with everything my ego could handle. unfortunately and obviously, universal intelligence is much more powerful than an individual mind, and does break through eventually.

Who is this igm...who are you...what is this ego you once handled...where is this "once?"

C'mon!

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@igm,

I was talking to the non-existing Indian mystery man, who's after nothing. Bliss and happiness is what I want but he apparently couldn't care less.

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@Olivier5,

The problem is serotonin in the brain n the remaining cheap talk...I would advise him to eat more chocolates as a way of improving his metaphysical stance ! Laughing

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@Fil Albuquerque,

What's at the absolute dead centre of the earth Fil?

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@Frank Apisa,

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Right...everyone in the world just doesn't want to understand and fathom the incredible complex thinking you are bringing to it.

incredibly complex thinking is not necessary to understand non duality or reality to the highest level. a desire that is beyond your individual desire is required. when operating from individuality, it is impossible, all desires are individual, including the desire for individual enlightenment. when individual experience is intense enough, the individual desire process gets exposed by a deeper, universal desire to be free from individuality itself.

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Just listen to the nice music...stay calm.

ok? wanting to be calm is your primitive instinct, not mine. coming from the fear of agitation, which is simply a normal evolutionary response to certain adverse situations. once there is no possibility of any adverse situation, eternal calmness arises.

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That is just great, CM. We are both having fun. It's a win/win conversation.

yes, the game of individuality is always win-win, because the eventuality is always the regression back to universality. so you win if you are enjoying your individuality, as you are, and you always eventually win once you realise you are the universe. the possibility of 'losing' only exists temporarily through suffering in individuality.

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@Frank Apisa,

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Aha...so now it is just a few who do not "get it"...and I am among the "few" who will not see the incredibly deep thinking and wondrous insights you are bringing to the table.

um yes. i said the majority of the world don't get it. the majority of the world is not on this forum. it is mainly intellectual thinkers and philosophers on this thread. therefore, that coupled with my theory that this understanding is an ongoing evolution, happening exponentially faster in all humankind, means that of course many people on this thread will understand me.

you unfortunately do not fall into that category, yet. although i believe you are blindingly close. the way you are revolting so hard against me proves that this is the final intellectual barrier for you. get ready for universality, it is coming soon! just say goodbye to frank, and hello to the entire universe.

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Hey, that is an improvement.

and yes, just off the top of my head, people like fresco, cybercruz, jlnobody, igm, spendius all seem to understand where i am coming from. of course they may see some things differently, but they aren't immaturely attacking me constantly like you.

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Remember what I said. Listen to the nice music...and stay calm. All will be better.
Blue Danube Waltz would be great. Play it...and just lose yourself in it. Shouldn't be that hard for you...since you and nothing else exists.

actually, i do lose myself in music on a daily basis. you should take some of your own advice, and ACTUALLY lose yourself, which is the entirety of my message in this thread. haha. music is a good way.

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@Frank Apisa,

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Who is this igm...

igm appears to 'my consciousness' as a poster on this thread.

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who are you...

'i' am the verbal definition given to 'my consciousness'

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what is this ego you once handled...

i never handled my ego, it was active until it died on its own

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where is this "once?"

i re-read my post and never used the word 'once'.

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C'mon!

and do what? keep destroying your arguments? k

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@Olivier5,

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I was talking to the non-existing Indian mystery man, who's after nothing. Bliss and happiness is what I want but he apparently couldn't care less.

firstly, even if i did believe in reality like you, why would i care less about YOUR bliss and happiness? **** that i'll think about my own bliss thanks. secondly, yes you are right, now i want nothing, but i don't want to want nothing. it happened by itself when all individual desires were seen through by universality. now my appearing individual self still wants things, actually wants them millions of times more, but the deeper universal self does not identify with these desires. therefore, desires have no limit anymore and increase endlessly, which also increases your ability to achieve them. however, there is no attachment to any outcomes, desires keep compounding on each other just by their very nature, and any plans to achieve them happen by themselves. there is no negative feedback when results don't go as planned, because there is no expectation in the first place.

so my life is an open ended infinite possibility, i will experience every moment of it as much as you or anybody else, and infinitely more than anybody who refuses to experience universality during life.

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@Fil Albuquerque,

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The problem is serotonin in the brain n the remaining cheap talk...I would advise him to eat more chocolates as a way of improving his metaphysical stance !

no, the problem with you is you require certain serotonin, dopamine or endorphin levels to be happy. they only confer a temporary level of happiness which is always immediately followed by a sadness as the levels of these chemicals even themselves out. all chemical 'happiness' is temporary and bound to fluctuate.

the bliss/happiness that igm and i have been describing does not result from any chemical levels in the brain, but is the natural state of all physical matter in the universe. my physical body could be dead, and the atoms that make it up would still be in the same bliss eternally. you can bury me, or cremate me, either way the rotting body atoms or the ash atoms will continue to be particles in the universe, vibrating with life and existing in eternal bliss.

that same bliss that is the entire universe can be felt even while individually alive as a separate person. but certainly not as a result of chemical levels in the brain.

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@spendius,

I don't know never been there but some guys think its a NiFe ball spendius...given you often seem to be fond of the entertainment business peculiarities and love Shakespeare n all I suppose you might be inclined to believe its Gaia with Amazonia seating at its right side...the next time you have an headache thinking about it while taking an aspirin make sure to tell me which one do you think its the best bet, k ?

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