morality, drugs, existence

OF COURSE NOT YOU DUMB ****. because every single sentence is comprised of words and every single word is ultimately an empty concept. it is you who simply does not perceive the actual conceptual meanings of words like true, false, ultimate, absolute, reality etc.

i have proven non duality to the maximum extent possible within appearing duality

how to eliminate idiots like frank is by people actually interested in the CONTENT of this discussion to contribute.

I perceive these meanings very well, better than you do, dumb ****... I'm not the one unable to see that they are MEANINGFUL. You are.

But you still don't get the point. Why are you talking, if words are meaningless? Why not just shut the **** up?

You have never 'proven' anything, let alone 'non-duality'. With all this meaningless bla-bla-bla of yours, you've never made your case. Which I guess is to be expected, if words are meaningless for you... You can't explain anything with meaningless words.

any meaning is subjective

hahahahaha dumb **** doesn't quite describe your dumbfuckitude.

I was pondering what you have said carnie and I got wondering whether a figment of the imagination is a figment of the imagination.

Have you a view?

any meaning is subjective

Duh... What else is new? Water is humid?

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hahahahaha dumb **** doesn't quite describe your dumbfuckitude.

That's because you lack imagination... and comprehension skills too. Even though I kept writing for dummies all along, you still couldn't understand my very very simple point. You kept running off the cliff all the time. Guess you like the sound of your own voice a bit too much, for a nihilist.

My main point is that your theory is self contradictory. If truth and all concepts are meaningless, then non-duality cannot be true. As simple as that. You prove yourself wrong every time you use a word.

I was suggesting that there is an infinite regress operating.

Are you into D.M.Armstrong's A Materialist Theory of Mind?

the deeper imagination

But isn't that a figment of your imagination? "Deeper" meaning your imagination is special and ours are all shallow.

Go win the Masters eh. These sophistries don't prove your excellence carnie. They are all old hat. They've been flogged to death by people who refuse/d economic activity as the mark of the slave.

Non-duality cannot be EXPRESSED by words or any other symbol, because signs imply the duality of signifier & signified. A word or concept is dual, inherently, joining a sound or drawing to a meaning, a meaning which points to something out there.

Therefore, as soon as you try to say something, you are bound to accept duality as an axiom.

The only way you can remain faithful to your suicidal philosophy is by staying silent at all times. You're attracted by this philosophical suicide, but are too much of a coward to pull the trigger...

Anyway, as of now, I pull your trigger. Boom, you're dead.

another funny thing i'd like to point out. it is obvious i started this thread as a discussion on reality. that itself is a seeking of help of some sorts, like i did not understand reality completely myself, so i wanted more perspectives to understand it better. everything i said about non duality was just speculation, i simply presented the arguments and did not claim them as my own, and gave the name of the author whom i derive most of what i say from (nisargadatta maharaj).

You did not present your material as speculation...you presented it mostly as fact...right from the first paragraph. And you presented it as though you were telling us what YOU knew...rather than as the speculations of someone else.

so i wanted more perspectives to understand it better

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You did not present your material as speculation...you presented it mostly as fact...right from the first paragraph. And you presented it as though you were telling us what YOU knew...rather than as the speculations of someone else.

i never felt the need to initially state that everything is speculation. i already said, it was an open ended discussion on reality for my own benefit and spiritual growth if you like. of course i will say whatever i think i KNOW. but as soon as anyone questioned where its from, i quoted where. just **** off with your petty arguments lol.

You did nothing of the sort, CM. Here is your first post in its entirety:

the pathway of non duality leads to an eternal abyss of nothingness, in which anything goes, and ideas such as morality can become very skewed, if not completely vanish. with the absence of any morality, drug use can only become more common. is there any need to address issues such as heavy drug use? does existence have any meaning? the emptiness of non duality appears to prove categorically that the answer is no.

You'd be much better off sticking with the truth while digging, CM!

i never felt the need to initially state that everything is speculation. i already said, it was an open ended discussion on reality for my own benefit and spiritual growth if you like. of course i will say whatever i think i KNOW. but as soon as anyone questioned where its from, i quoted where.