@igm,
There is a fear igm. Going around an object always denotes fear. It stems from neither party being able to answer my points, which I assume is a new experience for such smarty-pants, and from a fear of even thinking that such points have an existence in the world.
I don't think it is a fear of being punished in any afterlife or anything of that nature. It is a fear that a lifetime of preaching was based on a misunderstanding of the true situation and the jolt to their pride of their witnessed preaching being shown to be not only silly but subversive and of no use to anybody including themselves.
I say subversive because knocking down long-standing institutions without having an alternative to offer is wrecking ball **** and sometimes called Jacobinism. Both Mao and Kim Il-sung had alternatives.
Neither Apisa nor Setanta have anything useful to say and they have a chronic fear of the fact being exposed to public view.
I assume that justifying sexual licence is the pre-occupation because all the other people I have met who take the sort of line they take were at that game at a personal level without the bother of considering the effects of their opinions if accepted by everybody.
They fall foul of Kant's Categorical Imperative.
They are flat out narcissists and it shows in every post they write all of which are devoid of the slightest literary style or effort.
They seem to have no idea that the scorn they direct towards "fundies" is prissy compared to the scorn a Catholic theologian has for such heresies and yet they think, and what is far worse, they think the rest of us should be persuaded to think, that in attacking one or other of these cults on some minor points, such as the Noah story, they are succeeding in attacking the Christian Faustian project and its teachings on sexual matters on which their own life-styles are based.
It does not seem to have entered their minds that the rejection of artificial birth control, including abortion, requires a man to approach women with a high degree of circumspection and respect whereas the acceptance of it takes such things off the agenda. How much adultery would there be if all the women were biologically pure? Which is obviously what they should be and what they always were in the history of human evolution.
So many years of throwing the word "misogyny" at Christianity it turns out that they are the misogynists. That's why the don't respond to my posts, Setanta dare not even read them, and Apisa takes the trouble to distance himself from that level of soppiness.
They have built a whole way of thinking and acting upon them being a dear friend of Womanhood and they are Her worst enemy. Not an easy thing for a narcissist to face up to. Hence the word puddings they construct.
The challenge of what the atheist world they are busting a gut to usher in will be like they have shirked for 10 years. And putting me on Ignore or failing to respond to the challenge is merely a dodge to make it seem that no shirking is taking place and that I am a spurious troll or lack respect or am pissed or stupid is the real reason. Anybody who believes that will believe anything.
Their big mistake was to think they could bring the very limited and self-centred conclusions they have come to in the little pond they live in, where it might pass muster for no other reason than politeness, to an international debate concerning the road for our society to take.
They are out of their depth.
