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@Olivier5,

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Indeed, you're a nazi ****. Let's not forget that.

if i was a nazi ****, i really hope you're a jew, if not i'll have to leave the nazis

@carnaticmystery,

I never said Europeans are, of all eternity, destined to be superior. That would be racist indeed. I'm just saying it WAS, HISTORICALLY, more effective at some POINT of history. That point is past gone, I agree. We're exhausted. But that's also my point. India occupies a Muslim territory, Kashmir, and to keep it it has gone to war with Pakistan four times in half a century. Europe looks comparatively peaceful. The world is changing.

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@Olivier5,

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Indians and Chinese and Burma and co have been fighting many wars over many centuries. Genghis Khan or Attila did not come from Bristol.

thanks for repeating what i already said - people have been fighting over land all the time. nobody cares. except you for some weird reason. you think you are above it all? mr peace? no you genocidal, racist dumbfuck.

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China and India are coming of age as modern SUPERPOWERS.

this i agree with. but this does not mean they will engage in any war to achieve this. it is already happening by itself, the current superpower USA is killing itself off slowly by war. yes if anyone tries to **** with india or china, they have defences. but they will not attack each other, or anyone else, unprovoked. and they will become superpowers without any conflict. china will be the highest superpower due to sheer numbers, and india will be second. there will be no war to try and compete. go ahead and try and start one, olivier, good luck.

you can't make countries like india and china as stupid as you.

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@carnaticmystery,

Yes, I believe under reporting of rape is likely more a problem in India than in the US. Call me racist.

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@Olivier5,

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I never said Europeans are, of all eternity, destined to be superior

so you think they are currently superior? rofl, still racist dumb ****.

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. That would be racist indeed.

yes you are still racist.

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I'm just saying it WAS, HISTORICALLY, more effective at some POINT of history.

if 'more effective' is to piss off all other cultures by killing them mercilessly and taking their land, hoping nobody will ever retaliate, then yes. europeans were more effective.

if they eventually get annihilated out of power by retaliations, then it wasn't more effective, ever. they should have foreseen it, and only taken over what they could handle.

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India occupies a Muslim territory, Kashmir, and to keep it it has gone to war with Pakistan four times in half a century. Europe looks comparatively peaceful. The world is changing.

pakistan was part of india. muslims and hindus lived happily.
british came and caused the separation, caused gandhi's assassination due to hindu/muslim hatred, and from there, endless racial hatred.

yes of course they will continue fighting endlessly on those borders. you just keep on and on bringing up hindu violence over and over again, even though i have acknowledged it every time. you really think you somehow are proving something, but you are not. all humans are the same, essentially, and capable of violence. different religions have in history been involved in different amounts of violence, just by chance, and by their philosophies. you are denying this, trying to prove hindus are equally as violent, but it is just not true.

yes, 'the world is changing', but it isn't changing to where indians are more violent than europeans/caucasians. if it does, i will be the first to acknowledge it. but it has not happened, and in my opinion, never will.

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@Olivier5,

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Yes, I believe under reporting of rape is likely more a problem in India than in the US. Call me racist.

i will call you a racist. racist. i will also call you a dumb ****. because you are wrong. rape is under-reported everywhere, there is no possible way of determining the scale by which it is under-reported. the ONLY POSSIBLE way is to use your racist prejudices and decide that it must be worse in india. hahahah. i love the idiocy of racist dumb fucks.

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@carnaticmystery,

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if i was a nazi ****, i really hope you're a jew,

As Chaplin put it, I don't have the honour.

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@carnaticmystery,

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people have been fighting over land all the time. nobody cares. except you for some weird reason

Have you forgotten that you brought up the white warrior myth?

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but they will not attack each other, or anyone else, unprovoked.

China already occupies Indian-claimed territory in the Himalayas... China behaves aggressively and flexing its muscles on pretty much every front. Buddha show them the way of peace.

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@carnaticmystery,

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no, thats all wiki has got. i have got what i told you: the caste system was indiscriminatory and perfectly equal before british occupation.

Any proof for this Indian paradise of yours?

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in terms of political development, there is no evidence that europeans are doing better

Your country's entire political system is of European origin.

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@Olivier5,

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Have you forgotten that you brought up the white warrior myth?

no, i brought up the truth that abrahamic religions are more violent than hindu/buddhist. all history supports it, and your piss poor, specific examples of hindu violence do nothing in terms of numbers to falsify my claim.

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China already occupies Indian-claimed territory in the Himalayas... China behaves aggressively and flexing its muscles on pretty much every front. Buddha show them the way of peace.

are you stupid? the exact border location in the himalayas, nobody cares about, because it is unlivable conditions anyway. nobody is going to waste time trying to gain a few extra miles of himalayas as their own. if you think that either china or india are actually going to cross the himalayas and invade main territories of each other, you are deluded. keep hoping for war, sadist. maybe a few people will die for a few miles of himalayas. i doubt it..

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@Olivier5,

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Any proof for this Indian paradise of yours?

um yes, all indian literature? the original caste system is from vedic times, dating in the bronze age somewhere around ancient egyptian times. it was simply a definition system for the various roles people have in society. anybody was allowed in any 'caste', there was no discrimination. from wiki:

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Ancient Indian texts suggest caste system was not rigid. This flexibility permitted lower caste Valmiki to compose the Ramayana, which was widely adopted and became a major Hindu scripture. Other ancient texts cite numerous examples of individuals moving from one caste to another within their lifetimes.

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Your country's entire political system is of European origin.

yes, india went with the flow. when british overpowered them, they surrendered and followed all their ways. now, as european power dwindles, india's political / military / scientific developements will all cease to be influenced by european flawed thinking.

wars will not result from this, and your indian/chinese war is a sadistic fantasy.

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@carnaticmystery,

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no, i brought up the truth that abrahamic religions are more violent than hindu/buddhist. all history supports it, and your piss poor, specific examples of hindu violence do nothing in terms of numbers to falsify my claim.

As I see it the big numbers come from technological capacity, on the main. And sheer hubris and folly of course, we had our share of that of course.

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@carnaticmystery,

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all indian literature?

LOL. And Hindu words don't lie or embellish things of course... You know, if you believe some Roman writers, the Roman Empire was the best system ever... If you believe some American writers, the US is an unsurpassable perfection too... You are very naïve. It would be comical if you weren't such a hater.

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yes, india went with the flow. when british overpowered them, they surrendered and followed all their ways.

What are you waiting for? Little Cameron is preventing you from adopting a new constitution? See, Europe still has tremendous powers! ;-)

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@carnaticmystery,

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C'mon, now, CM. If you are going to build this religion of yours and become a latter day Buddha or Jesus...you gotta keep your head screwed on tighter.

You are losing it in a thread that you started...and not just with me. You are losing it with many people...allowing your emotions and frustration to take you off the highway.

Bake this thing a bit more! And get yourself under control. Then start the campaign.

wasting your time with posts like these.

I doubt that very much, CM. Listen to the tone of this reply...and then compare it to the ones you gave to my several posts prior to it. Wink

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@Frank Apisa,

You are wasting your time Apisa. You have nothing to offer. You're a boring old fart flogging a dead horse. No style, no insights which were not known thousands of years ago and no hope.

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@spendius,

hahahahah thank you...harsh but true..rofl

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@Olivier5,

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all indian literature?

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LOL. And Hindu words don't lie or embellish things of course... You know, if you believe some Roman writers, the Roman Empire was the best system ever... If you believe some American writers, the US is an unsurpassable perfection too... You are very naïve. It would be comical if you weren't such a hater.

i didn't tell you to believe it. i didn't say hindus don't lie or embellish. you asked for 'proof' of hindu caste system. so i gave hindu texts as proof. obviously non hindu texts will be less accurate about hinduism.

yes i agree that all texts are biased, so what? if i want to understand the roman empire better, i won't look up hindu texts, i will look up roman texts.

you are the naive idiot, who believes media propaganda about indian problems such as a discriminatory caste system, excessive rape, etc.

i don't care if you do believe it...rofl...anyone with half a brain knows the facts. i especially love your beyond idiotic thought that under-reporting of rape is more in india than USA. hahahahha. the absolute purity of racism.

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yes, india went with the flow. when british overpowered them, they surrendered and followed all their ways.

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What are you waiting for? Little Cameron is preventing you from adopting a new constitution? See, Europe still has tremendous powers! ;-)

who said europe has no power? lol. as you said, there hubris from their power is what is slowly bringing them down. the british certainly overpowered india completely, the gandhian movement was nothing but an intelligent way to kick them out, but they had already changed the entirety of indian culture and belief system.

now you say what are we waiting for? we are waiting for you to lose power completely. we are uninterested in power ourselves, and yet, we will be the most powerful after all the people interested in power kill each other off.

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@Frank Apisa,

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wasting your time with posts like these.

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I doubt that very much, CM. Listen to the tone of this reply...and then compare it to the ones you gave to my several posts prior to it.

ok sorry. if you consider me 'changing my tone' a victory on your part, and a great use of your time, then you are right you are not wasting your time at all.

actually, it is nothing but a failure on your part, proving that my previous tone had an effect on you. the correct effect, the one where you didn't like it, and had to get me to change that tone. so thanks for falling directly into my trap.

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@carnaticmystery,

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we are waiting for you to lose power completely. we are uninterested in power ourselves, and yet, we will be the most powerful after all the people interested in power kill each other off.

Sounds like a plan... Rolling Eyes

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@Olivier5,

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As I see it the big numbers come from technological capacity, on the main. And sheer hubris and folly of course, we had our share of that of course.

india has more technological capacity than usa and europe combined. they don't use it to make as many nukes as you guys, because it isn't necessary. they have enough to defend themselves against what their intelligence suggests may be a threat. they don't continue to make more and aggressively take over countries like USA. this is not a lack of technological capacity, but a more intelligent and peaceful use of it.

the muslims didn't do 9/11 because they had better technological capacity than india. they did it out of personal hatred for USA. if india had enough hatred, they would have done the same.

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