@Olivier5,
Quote:Just like a dog can't or won't catch his tail, conscience cannot or won't observe itself very well.
firstly, conscience and consciousness are two very different concepts. i assume you meant consciousness. yes, when you assume the absolute reality of the external universe, then consciousness is unable to observe itself. because it is always observing the world. if the entire universe is consciousness observing itself, then it can observe itself.
Quote:Perhaps we'd need a third brain to do that well. We can sense ourself thinking but we (I) find it hard the sense myself sensing what I think. One could theoretically imagine infinite levels of consciousness but our brain can't make them happen. We can only manage well one order of conscience
what you are describing, the 'finding it hard', is exactly what i am talking about. why do you find it hard? because you are always one step deeper, no matter how deep you look. you can sense yourself think, but can you sense the sensing? if you can, can you sense that sensing?
i agree that it leads to infinitely regressing levels of consciousness. this is why my final conclusion is that consciousness itself is never an absolute phenomenon, but a relative experience to a higher level consciousness. since these higher levels are infinite, in our own experience, we can conclude that there is no highest or ultimate reality, only an infinite potential of all possible experience.
Quote:Level 0: I think
Level 1: I hear myself thinking, inside me head...
firstly, what is 'level 0'.
if you say 'i think', there is no way to verify yourself as the 'i'. you just assume it to be true.
if you hear yourself thinking, then all you know is that 'thoughts are being heard'. how can you be sure of the identity of the thinker? you choose to define it as your SELF. if you don't, it just becomes 'thoughts being heard'. if there is no identity behind the thought, then its relevance and reality becomes questionable.
