@Frank Apisa,
Quote:The first insults came from y0u...and the beginning of any period of insults always starts with you
this was your first msg to me:
Quote:I see that you are saying all those things, CM...but you are using words to say them.
And essentially, you are asserting things...simply asserting them.
already you were taking a condescending approach, trying to make your point gently at first: that words and assertions mean a definite absolute reality.
my response to you clearly addressed all your points:
Quote:i am using words because words are the only form of communication available. i am not 'asserting' anything i say, everything i say is a questionable statement made of words which are of course open to interpretation. even if i do appear to be 'asserting' things, the very content of what i am saying denies that i am trying to assert anything. if you consider it to be an assertion, that 'nothing exists', then that is your interpretation. to me, it is a statement with a conceptual meaning. the possible meaning of 'nothing exists' is different from the one who says it or the words themselves.
then, from my sincere response to you, this was your next reply:
Quote:You wrote:
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i am saying there is no true statements, there is no truth
That is, as I noted in my last post...an assertion, despite your denials. (Which sounds like a nerd attempt to satirize Abbott and Costello's "Who's On First.")
And the inherent contradiction stands. It IS like saying, "This statement is false!"
so in my first response, i stated my position on the so-called 'assertions' i am making. i stated that in my opinion, they are all questionable speculations. and your response to that is just THE EXACT SAME ARGUMENT. "no, you asserted something again."
you follow this same style the whole way through. i address everything you say systematically. then you pick one word or phrase and attack it, and neglect all the other content which disproves all your rubbish.
i won't bother quoting how many times you repeated this pointless argument, but it is a good example of your stupidity.
now, my next comment is where you probably interpreted your first insult from me:
Quote:i am sorry you don't understand the meaning of 'assertion'. to assert something means to be sure that it is true. because i am not, i am not asserting, only speculating. it is very sad that you don't understand the basics of the english language.
you may find this insulting, but i stand by this comment. your response is that assertions aren't always 'sure', what about people who 'assert' god? the point is, anybody who 'asserts' god, is SURE of god themselves. if they believe they are asserting it, they believe they are sure.
if somebody simply says something, with no belief or confidence themselves, it is not an assertion to them, it is speculation. but if you interpret confidence, then you may subjectively classify it as an assertion.
you seem to still not have grasped this concept, blabbing on endlessly about how all my arguments are invalid because i am making 'assertions'. rubbish.
Quote:Why on Earth would I consider comments about me being old an insult? I am still hale and hearty at 77.
well if you don't, then good, i didn't insult you.
Quote:Calling attention to me being old is not an insult. Feel free to do it if you get off on it. I am still on the green side of the grass...and playing golf on it. I am delighted with my life.
i do it because age is meaningless, and you if you truly don't get insulted then congratulations. all my apparent insults are just direct responses to your insults.
Quote:It is not my responsibility to try to get you to act like an adult...and to try to stop you from soiling your own thread, CM. That is your responsibility. Ask around...you'll see.
nothing is anybody's responsibility obviously. but in my opinion, somebody with more life experience has more responsibility in stopping CHILDISH ARGUMENTS.
the sad truth is that you don't want to stop this argument, so it keeps going.
Quote:Oh, yes...another example of "there is nothing" coming from me to you on the Internet.
Damn...you are funny.
yes. 'there is nothing' does not contradict the appearance of "me", "you" or "the internet".
