Where's the outrage now Democrats?

Dodd spoke of the man you see,
Not the one that used to be -
If the epithet don't fit,
Buddy boy, it's time to quit.

In words that Republicans believe sound awfully similar to the comments that knocked Sen. Trent Lott (R-Miss.) out of the GOP leadership, Dodd said, "It has often been said that the man and the moment come together. I do not think it is an exaggeration at all to say to my friend from West Virginia that he would have been a great Senator at any moment. Some were right for the time. Robert C. Byrd, in my view, would have been right at any time." -- Roll Call

Dodd did not hearken back to Byrd's youthful days, as Lott so openly did. Dodd clearly meant the man of today.
Now there are plenty of issues on which liberals have made serious errors and have taken a wrong stance on an issue. Why you expend so much energy on a non issue is beyond me.

Please, if you want Dodd to go, please, take him. He's been fairly useless, not as useless as his father, but useless nonetheless. I say this for two reasons: one, I'd like to kill this pathetic thread, and two, I love to write the word nonetheless.

Joe

Joe, both are noble endeavours

I'll quit harping on this until the liberals quit harping on Bush not apologizing for 9/11 or when hell freezes over, whichever comes first.

Harp away. You'll not get much mileage with it.

foxfrye

The article changes things for me. (though what exactly he meant is hard to fathom) What both Trent Lott said and what Dodd appears to have said may be in context similar and Dodd should be called on it.

See there, :wink: I am about as liberal as they come (in governmental and social policies) and I can admit when one of my party says or does something that I don't approve of.

And Revel, though I doubt we will agree on many things, you are a lady and a scholar and I appreciate your intellectual honesty.

foxfyre,

thanks though I have never in my life been thought of as a scholar, I will bask in the glow while it last.

I still think you should take Dodd. When can you pick him up?

BY the way, have you called Dodd's office and asked for a retraction?

Joe

Props to revel and Joe. Dodd and Lott did say basically the same thing about the same type of people on the same type of occasion.

I really sort of feel sorry for both of them. I don't think either one of them were waxing nostalgic for the good ole days of slavery and open racism--

I think Lott's explanation and apology should've sufficed... if it had, Dodd wouldn't have even been a blip on the radar screen. These were two old men, who seen a lot of history, and at a time were on the wrong side of it-- I know Thurmond had done a 180 (political expediency or not)--unsure of Byrd (because I heard Thurmond disavow his history, and he broke ground in hiring blacks in the Senate. I just haven't run across Byrd's disavowal, or proving a change. He may have.)

Praising a guy, who used to be openly racist is a tedious matter, I guess. What do you say..."Here is a man, who has devoted his life to America--well, at one time, he was devoted to most Americans, the paler ones... ...who is a shining example of public service...except from 1933 to about 1968..."

I agree Sofia. Dodd is no racist, nor is Lott. Both came out of a generation more concerned with substance than with sensitivity and both have had to learn how to adjust to the current culture of political correctness.

It still galls me that the Democrats were able to seriously damage Lott on so innocuous a matter and Dodd will get a pass just because he is a Democrat. But in answer to somebody's query, I have changed my mind. I won't push for the GOP to do anything about it now because two wrongs don't make a right.

Oh, and Revel, anybody in this forum who has the ability to read and actually see what has been said is a scholar in my book.

And anybody who reads it otherwise is a---

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Although I never had much use for Lott and was glad to see him ousted from his position of majority leader. The furor IMO was much ado about nothing and was blown way out of proportion. That said however, the two listed statements are not analogous nor do the carry the same connotation.

Just what I said, au.

Dodd also said Byrd would have made a great leader at any time in history.

He would've been leading in a white hood at one time in his history--and it seems some of you support this.

Otherwise, he was as wrong as Lott...

Dodd said Byrd would have made a great leader at any time in history. But, he did not say that even when Byrd was young and misguided he would have been a great leader. On that point he didn't say anything at all.
Another way to tell you conservatives are just whistling Dixie: When Lott made his statement, even Republicans recognized it and refused to support him. With Dodd, it's all quiet on both sides of the aisle, but possibly for a couple of would be trouble makers (on that point I don't know; I haven't noticed a single person in the congress complaining at all).

Well if you read both quotes.....ALL the quotes....and cannot see that both were guilty of exactly the same thing, then there is nothing more to talk about. It wasn't much to do about nothing and the Republicans have complained as well they should.

The intellectually honest will see the double standard and admit to it.

The smart people see the emperor's new clothes.

Smart people will agree with Foxfyre.

Smart people will see through an emperor's new clothes ploy.

I just made a pair o' docs.