Where's the outrage now Democrats?

Well if this double standard does not make my point about the liberal bias and pro-Democrat stance of the mainstream media, nothing will.

However, I'm sending this stuff over to the Republican National Headquarters. They should be able to work it into a campaign ad somewhere since the Democrats seem to have no sense of fair play in issues like this.

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Racism
Racism and bigotry no matter who exhibits it is wrong!

Next topic.

Fed, are you an actual sherriff?

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Byrd has talked about past klan association has expressed regret about it and says that he no longer feels that way. (words to that effect) While trent lott was wishing to go back to the days of segregation.

A lot of folks were for segregation and thought nothing of black people being forced to drink from another fountain. However a lot of those same folks have realized the injustice and ignorance of that and have changed their minds rather than wishing we were back to those days.

Byrd is a good speaker and I say that while not particulary admiring the man for his stand on Clinton during the monica and clinton saga. He made a speech about unfitting it was for Clinton to say that being impeached was no big deal. I personally thought it was funny and true considering who it was who impeached him. Nevertheless Bryd gave a good speech about it.

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Re: Racism

pistoff wrote:

Racism and bigotry no matter who exhibits it is wrong!

Next topic.

Fed, are you an actual sherriff?

Actually pistoff, it's Tarantulas that is showing the sheriffs badge.

Just clearing things up. Smile

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Foxfire, I appreciate you carrying the torch for Fedral and I agree he can hold his own in these debates. However, I assumed we were talking about hypocrisy in the leadership and rank and file of the respective parties, not the motley crew you presented like Farrakhan and Lee. But in all honesty, the attitude and ignorance of Watson and Waters made me nauseous. And you scored points with those two.

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Both men had brain farts while showing respect for an older politician. Neither should be run out of town for not realizing what they were doing. "Oops, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply that", should be sufficient. Failure to recognize the obvious similarities is the height of hyper-partisanship.

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OCCOM BILL wrote:

Both men had brain farts while showing respect for an older politician. Neither should be run out of town for not realizing what they were doing. "Oops, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply that", should be sufficient. Failure to recognize the obvious similarities is the height of hyper-partisanship.

The problem is Bill, one of them (Lott, a Republican) was already 'run out of town' by the press not letting go of his remarks until he was forced to apologize and step down from his position.

The item that gets the 'back up' of most Republicans is the way the Dodd comment was completely ignored by the press and by his fellow Democrats and the man hasn't even issued an apology, let alone been as vilified in the press as Lott was.

If the Democrats and Liberals on this board can't see the double standard at work here with an almost IDENTICAL situation, then they are as completely blind to it as the extremists of the Right claim they are.

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well, we do claim that for a reason...

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I've seen several threads on other forums about this. Without reading what others are saying first, I am putting in my two cents' worth. Byrd very openly admitted to all this long ago and apologized for it. He is not the same person the article seeks to condemn. Most thoughtful persons from both sides of the political aisle know this, but there will always be those who seek to boil up a fresh brew using stale old grounds. It has no bearing on his criticism of the Bush administration.

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It has everything to do with fairness and common sense however. If a Republican Senator, despite publically apologizing to everybody but the Martians for an innocent faux pas, can be forced to resign a Senate leadership position because of it, and then a Democrat Senator committing an idential faux pas gets a pass, you maybe can understand why Bush refuses to apologize for something he didn't do, i.e. 9/11. If he had, the left would have been screaming "He admits it! He did it!"

All we on the right are asking for is fair and equal treatment. I am not sure the leftwing Democrats are capable of that, however.

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edgarblythe wrote:

I've seen several threads on other forums about this. Without reading what others are saying first, I am putting in my two cents' worth. Byrd very openly admitted to all this long ago and apologized for it. He is not the same person the article seeks to condemn. Most thoughtful persons from both sides of the political aisle know this, but there will always be those who seek to boil up a fresh brew using stale old grounds. It has no bearing on his criticism of the Bush administration.

Yes Edgar, and Senator Strom Thurmond long ago renounced the segregationist path he was on in his 'intemperate youth' and apologized for the things he did and said, yet when HE was praised by Lott, suddenly Senator Lott was praising 'a segregationist'.

Thats the problem that the Right has with the mainstream media, they don't seem to recognize their own bias in situations like these.

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The reason Lott was "run out of the town" (though last I looked he was just in effect demoted) was not because of his praise for Thurmand but because he wished for the days of segregation to come back again. Whats so hard to understand?

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Byrd changed out of conscience. Thurmond may have said words, but his actions belied any change.

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Also: What revel said.

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And based on Revel and Edgar's comments, unsubstantianted by anything I've read or seen on Cspan or heard on the evening news, I rest my case. The left are incapable of any sense of fair play or justice. It's very frustrating.

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No sense of fair play or justice, based on this stupid argument? What a laugh. Lott wants to hearken us back to segregation and the like in a public speach. It was based on THURMOND BEFORE HE SAID HE RECANTED. If you think these two guys deserved different treatment you are the one with no sense of fair play and justice. We could engage in tit for tat argument over this for weeks and never budge on it. Frankly, it's a waste of your time and mine.

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You've set up a false premise: That because Byrd was once on the same side of an issue as Trent Lott, liberals are hypocrites to condemn Lott for what he still believes while exempting Byrd, who long ago gave up such beliefs. It's absurd.

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No, our premise is that the left condemned Lott and demanded retribution while exempting DODD who praised a former racist and suggested his entire history an career was exemplary. That's what Lott did in the case of praising Strom Thurmond and he has been condemned even though he publically apologized and admitted insensitivity in numerous forums on numerous occasions.

Dodd is getting a pass - no apology required. No expressions of outrage from the left - no notice of the inequality or even reports of the story in the mainstream media who blared Lott's sins in banner headlines.

If you can't see the double standard here, there is no hope that liberals will ever be seen as having any sense of fair play and equality.

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Foxfyre wrote:

The left are incapable of any sense of fair play or justice.

<smiles>

You seem to be fighting fire with fire there.

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I had to go back and read your link to get a sense of how Dodd plays in this. Nowhere in that linked story does Dodd get quoted as praising Byrd during his misguided young days, so the false premise charge I mad estill stands and is valid. You guys are tilting at a windmill here.

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