Define Satan

Quote:

Krumple said: You were not giving the option to be born. If christianity is true then you were forced into this stupid game of believe in god or be tortured for eternity. It is absolute nonsense.

It's not quite as clear cut as that mate, there are hidden depths that this pic hints at-

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/charlie.gif~original

1 Reply

@Romeo Fabulini,

Romeo Fabulini wrote:

Quote:
Krumple said: You were not giving the option to be born. If christianity is true then you were forced into this stupid game of believe in god or be tortured for eternity. It is absolute nonsense.

It's not quite as clear cut as that mate, there are hidden depths that this pic hints at-

Yeah I know theists like to invent what ever nonsense that fills up the gaps in their logic because they desperately want their theology to be true. They don't even care if it contradicts some other nonsense they made up.

You want to know what the nonsense of your stupid picture says to me?

Well I'm giving you a gift but at the same time I demand that you use the gift in a certain way or else I'm going to get angry. So yeah, here is your gift, I'm giving it to you freely but just remember, you should only use it the way I suggested or else you'll get my wrath. *smiley face*

You are SO delusional that you will try anything to make your theology true. Even make up bullshit.

It is NOT a gift if you expect the person to use it a certain way. It is an obligation, not a gift. But then again I don't ever expect a theist to actually be consistent. They just want their delusions.

1 Reply

@Krumple,

I think you're feeling in love.

0 Replies

Quote:

Krumple said: Yeah I know theists like to invent what ever nonsense that fills up the gaps in their logic because they desperately want their theology to be true. They don't even care if it contradicts some other nonsense they made up.

Like I said, there are hidden depths to the Bible, for example one of the most famous prophets is Jeremiah, but when he was a young man and God told him he wanted him to be a prophet, he tried to talk his way out of the job!

"The word of the Lord came to me, saying,
“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart, I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”
“Alas, Sovereign Lord,” I said, “I do not know how to speak, I am too young.”
But the Lord said to me, “Do not say, ‘I am too young.’ You must go to everyone I send you to and say whatever I command you. Do not be afraid of them, for I am with you and will rescue you,” (Jer ch 1)

2 Replies

@Romeo Fabulini,

To a brain like yours, Romeo, there are hidden depths to a Dick and Jane reader.

0 Replies

@Romeo Fabulini,

Romeo Fabulini wrote:

Quote:
Krumple said: Yeah I know theists like to invent what ever nonsense that fills up the gaps in their logic because they desperately want their theology to be true. They don't even care if it contradicts some other nonsense they made up.

Like I said, there are hidden depths to the Bible, for example one of the most famous prophets is Jeremiah, but when he was a young man and God told him he wanted him to be a prophet, he tried to talk his way out of the job!

The whole idea of a prophet is ridiculous. God would have to be a complete idiot to think a prophet is a good vehicle for getting out his plan. He selects one person to convince a large group? Why not just go to each person individually? Why the need for ONE person? He would have to understand that people rarely if ever fully accept the testimony of ONE person.

You can't use the argument that if god went to every person that it would interfere with their free will. That is absolutely nonsense. But by singling out certain people to bring his message is actually absurd. It pins people against each other.

A better explanation is that pretty much EVERY person who claims to be a prophet both in the past and present have a MENTAL illness of some kind. Many of the stories of prophets have been analyzed and they exhibit similar experiences that modern patients claim to also have experienced. Hearing voices, hallucinations, being told god is talking to them, being called a prophet, ect. Even Mohammad has been diagnosed with having frontal lobe epilepsy. There are modern patients that have similar experiences that Mohammad talked about happening to him. It is well documented. He wasn't a prophet at all, he had a mental illness.

I am not even sure why you would quote biblical passages to me anyways. I don't buy any of it. I have read the bible multiple times all the way through. I don't consider any of it remarkable in any way. It is a horrible read, terribly put together. If a god was behind it, it should be a pleasant read and enjoyable, but it is far from it. You might as well be quoting the McDonalds menu to me because I find just as much validity in their menu as I do the bible, which is to say NONE.

0 Replies

Guys, guys, drop your medieval mindsets and think MODERN.. Smile

The Bible is simply a list of human close encounters with "aliens" (God, Jesus, angels, demons) over many centuries!
Scientists and astronomers wonder if there's alien life out there in the universe and whether they'll visit Earth, but what if they've already been and gone?

Jesus said- "I know where I came from and where I am going, but you have no idea where I come from or where I am going....you are of this world, I am not of this world...I'll tell you things hidden since the creation of the world" (John 8:14/ 8:23, Matt 13:35)

Hey Spock will you listen to him?
"Affirmative, it would be illogical not to listen, I'm all ears!"

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/Spock-vwj.jpg~original

1 Reply

@Romeo Fabulini,

Quote:

The Bible is simply a list of human close encounters with "aliens" (God, Jesus, angels, demons) over many centuries!

We are all spirits. Think about it.

1 Reply

@anonymously99,

anonymously99 wrote:

Quote:
The Bible is simply a list of human close encounters with "aliens" (God, Jesus, angels, demons) over many centuries!

We are all spirits. Think about it.

I don't think you actually have thought about it. I know you WANT that to be true.

It doesn't make any sense that a god would create a universe where everything is reliant upon energy to function. There is NOTHING that can function without energy. But you want me to believe that you have a spirit or a soul that doesn't require any energy? It is ridiculous. I don't expect you to understand that, most theists refuse to acknowledge it.

It really doesn't make any sense. Like your soul would have pain receptors so that you can be tortured of eternity. Your soul has a central nervous system to make sure you can feel the pain. And well if you are in heaven you get to feel constant bliss so yeah your soul needs receptors for that to release endorphin and dopamine. Oh wait excuse me, It's magic!

The whole thing is magic. The soul can function for eternity not needing energy input and of course the soul can feel things without needing a central nervous system or nerve fibers. IT JUST WORKS.. it's magic!

2 Replies

@Krumple,

For those who don't believe in satan. Who don't really care to give satan much thought... to make it seem simple to not think or worry about wouldn't, shouldn't satan be viewed in simple terms...

A negative thought. The opposite of positive. Nothing to worry about. Satan is negative hallucinations, cause for negative thoughts.

1 Reply

@anonymously99,

anonymously99 wrote:

For those who don't believe in satan. Who don't really care to give satan much thought... to make it seem simple to not think or worry about wouldn't, shouldn't satan be viewed in simple terms...

A negative thought. The opposite of positive. Nothing to worry about. Satan is negative hallucinations, cause for negative thoughts.

satan doesn't exist. Just another made up concept that christians love to use to keep their cult relevant in their own minds.

I don't see the world as evil or having any problems. It is the people that cause most of the problems. And it is only a few handful that cause those problems. The rest of society are not bad people. I would say probably 1 out of every hundred million or so are terrible.

But then again my criteria for what makes you a bad person isn't the same nonsense that christians try to use.. I don't think you are a bad person for denying the existence of god, jesus or the holy ghost. Which according to christianity is an unforgivable sin.

1 Reply

@Krumple,

Quote:

I don't think you are a bad person for denying the existence of god, jesus or the holy ghost.

When did I? Please provide evidence.

1 Reply

@anonymously99,

anonymously99 wrote:

Quote:
I don't think you are a bad person for denying the existence of god, jesus or the holy ghost.

When did I? Please provide evidence.

oh man, you are dumb..

1 Reply

@Krumple,

0 Replies

Quote:

Krumple said: satan doesn't exist.

He just made you say that.. Smile

0 Replies

@Krumple,

Where did you get your cockamamie ideas about what christians believe? Certainly not from the Bible. Your posts are so full of straw men, you should be labeled a fire hazard.

1 Reply

@neologist,

neologist wrote:

Where did you get your cockamamie ideas about what christians believe? Certainly not from the Bible. Your posts are so full of straw men, you should be labeled a fire hazard.

What exactly have I said that is a strawman?

1 Reply

@Krumple,

Krumple wrote:

What exactly have I said that is a strawman?

I suppose I spoke in haste. Or maybe not. You accepted the asseverations of anonymous and Romeo about the soul.

Quote:

But you want me to believe that you have a spirit or a soul that doesn't require any energy? It is ridiculous.

Of course, they are ridiculous. But, if you had really paid attention while you read the Bible as you claimed, you would know that we do not have souls; we are souls. Souls are mortal. The spirit (Hebrew, ruah; Greek, pneumo) is simply the force keeping the soul alive.

BTW, the idea that we cannot die arises from the claim the serpent made in Genesis 3:4

Quote:

You certainly will not die.

2 Replies

@neologist,

neologist wrote:

Souls are mortal. The spirit (Hebrew, ruah; Greek, pneumo) is simply the force keeping the soul alive.

The spirit? That is just more vague nonsense. Nothing different than saying a flying pink elephant keeps the soul alive. You are just feeding me bullshit on top of bullshit. I am not buying it. You are a used car salesman for the theology.

1 Reply

@neologist,

Quote:

But, if you had really paid attention while you read the Bible as you claimed, you would know that we do not have souls; we are souls. Souls are mortal. The spirit (Hebrew, ruah; Greek, pneumo) is simply the force keeping the soul alive.

This is I viewing myself from several, of many, angles:

I have a soul.

I am a soul.

This woman has a soul.

This woman is a soul.

That woman has a soul.

That woman is a soul.

1 Reply

Related Topics

Quick Links

My Account

able2know