note from edgarblythe: I have edited the following message from Alpha-Omega before posting it:
Dear -----
Hope the following about the devious Mr. McAdam
and his rip-off methods helps to clarify some matters
about Cansema products and the Risingsun scam.
Also -- a message to you, edgarblythe:-- if this still
leaves you believing that Mr. McAdam is "honest",
then there is very little more than I can say to you.
If you still can think that Mr. McAdam is an honest man,
you must also believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny. ;-)
* Below is (first), a copy of edgarblythe's e-mail to this
forum, which I forwarded to AO Labs. Their answer to that
is written within the text of edgar's e-mail.
*The second e-mail is a copy that edgar says is a reply
to him from Mr. McAdam. I sent that e-mail to AO Labs also,
and in reply to that, AO Labs replies within the text of
Mr. McAdam's e-mail.
I hope that this helps to clarify some matters.
Regards to all,
xxxxxx
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-----Original Message-----
From: Alpha Omega
To: ---- xxxxx
Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 7:33 AM
Subject: [cancercured] Alpha-Omega/Risingsun
----- Original Message -----
From: xxxxx --
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 12:01 AM
Subject: [cancercured] Alpha-Omega/Risingsun
>>Hello ...you can call me xxxxxxx (this is my real name).
Hope that you are a free man by now, Greg, and that
things will get sorted out soon for you.
>>He isn't free now...but we continue to fight
>>for his freedom.
Long time since I have heard from you folks. There
is an ongoing exchange about McAdam, his claims,
and badmouthing of AO Labs by a man calling himself
edgarblythe, on the "Cancercured" forum to which
I subscribe under the name of xxxxx.
>>This man was one of our customers...and it appears
>>this man knows nothing about us or Mr. McAdam's
>>"actual" situation.
Below are copies of two e-mail posts. Could you please
let me know how things are "in the real world"? This
edgar sounds as if he is naive, or very gullible, if not
in fact even part of Risingsun -- but some people are
taking him seriously.
>>I'll be more than happy to clear up any
>>misconceptions.
>>
-----Original Message-----
From: edgarblythe
Date: Monday, April 12, 2004 1:19 AM
Subject: [cancercured] Alpha-Omega/Risingsun
>
>The man defending Alpha-Omega ...
["the man" is me, folks, under the name of xxxxx]
> ... said that Risingsun not only has no
>product to sell; they don't even answer their emails. I wrote to
>Risingsun and the message I posted is the Risingsun reply. The
>words are all his, not mine. ...
["the words from Risingsun" are in the following e-mail]
> ... I have stated two or three times
>that I am making no personal judgements until the truth is fully
>out there. I don't care which company is the more honest; I just
>want my Cansema products back. It is not my purpose here to argue
>and to condemn, but to find the whole truth so that we may safely
>buy what we need to restore our health.
>>This sounds funny since I get daily emails of complaints
>>about Mr. McAdam. As a matter of fact I got a 2 page letter
>>today about how Mr. McAdam charges people's credit cards
>>and doesn't have the product to send. This person also
>>said that
>>she has tried to contact Mr. McAdam (making no less than
>>100 phone calls since she placed her order, which she
>>hasn't gotten).
>>
>>The complaints roll in about Mr. McAdam...every single day!
>> 1. He charges cards and doesn't send product or sends out
>>something than what they believed they were getting.
>>
>> 2. He continues to make excuses, but does little to actually
>>help people.
>>
>> 3. He still owes Alpha Omega Labs well over $5000. for
>>products that we sent to his customers.
>>
>> 4. He does not answer his phones, replies to emails or
>>even returns a fax when contacts. (I myself have tried
>>to contact him over 300 or 400 times since 09/17/0[3],
>>and have gotten maybe 2 replies. Usually saying...
>>"I'll get back to you".
>>
>> 5. I have had so many complaints about Mr. McAdam
>>and his money making tactics that I have had to create
>>an entire file devoted to only complaints about the man.
>----------
In this following post, edgarblythe is copying a post he claims
to have received from Risingsun... what do you make of it?
>>
>>Its a bunch of bullshit if you ask me...and I will explain
>>why below.
Also, could you please let me know which parts of your next
answer to me I may copy-post to the cancercured forum?
>>You can post EVERYTHING I said on the forum, because
>>unlike Mr. McAdam...we have nothing to hide. Also - a lot
>>can be explained on our main page of our web site.
>>Please have people visit
www.altcancer.com
>>where a warning has been posted.
Regards and best wishes to you all,
xxxx aka xxxxx
>>
>>Thank you for bringing this to my attention.
>>
-----Original Message-----
From: edgarblythe
Date: Sunday, April 11, 2004 4:04 AM
Subject: [cancercured] Alpha-Omega/Risingsun Health: Reply from
Risingsun
>
>
> I thank you for your e-mail. There had been a problem with a
>lab that Alpha Omega recommened. [[[??? Huh? ... xxxxx]]]
>
>>I have no idea what he's talking about there and I doubt
>>that he has any idea as well. He is just making crap up
>>at this point to cover his ass because he's charges
>>thousands of dollars worth of credit cards and hasn't
>>sent any product.
>>
>It seems that what was on the lable was not in the product.
>>
>>Mr. McAdam mentions inaccuracies in ingredient
>>labeling and inconsistencies in the concentration of
>>products. The only accused inaccuracy that we are
>>aware of is regarding the H3O. We purchased the H3O
>> product from a company in California to private label.
>> We received all labeling information from that company,
>>including ingredient listings. We would like to think that
>>the maker of H3O simply misinformed us if the accusations
>>of inconsistencies are true; however, we have seen nothing
>>but successful results in the use of the H3O.
>>
>Therefore, we had to destroy all of the products we had recieved
>from the lab. That was over $30,000 worth of products.
>>
>>What products is he talking about? Mr. McAdam NEVER
>>received ANY products from our company or our Lab.
>> He would call his orders in to us and we would ship them
>>out.
>>
>>In the beginning Mr. McAdam was on a N30 basis
>>...meaning...we would ship the products out to his
>>customers, he would get paid right away and then he had
>>30 days to pay us back. Within 3 months Mr. McAdam was
>>well over $15,000. in debt to us and apparently had no
>>intention of paying us until we stopped the future and
>>pending orders. We didn't understand how Mr. McAdam
>>was getting paid for each order and was unable to pay
>>his bills. Even to this day, Mr. McAdam owes us almost
>>$6,000. and I know that it isn't because our prices were
>>to high...he has actually complained to our customers
>>and his own customers that our prices were too low.
>>
>>Point to my story...Mr. McAdam never had $30,000 worth
>>of product to destroy. He never had five dollars worth
>>of products to destroy.
>>
>We now have two FDA approved labs putting the formulas together.
>>
>>Yes, he says that he has a new Lab creating the formulas...
>>however, he does not have the actual formulas. This isn't
>>to say that his formulas won't be effective. I don't know...
>>I have never used any of his recreated formulas.
>>
>Those who have ordered we have been contacting. Those that have
>ordered are getting the products and those that wish to have a refund
>get it.
>>
>>We have had no less than 1 or 2 complaints a day stating
>> otherwise. People haven't been getting their emails
>>responded to, and contrary to their claims that they have
>>new offices and additional phone lines the phones ring
>>off the hook with no answer. People are frustrated that
>>it takes weeks or even months to get a response out of
>>Mr. McAdam and that is if he feels like picking up the phone.
>>
>The latest information I have from the FDA agent involved in the
>Alpha Omega incident is that the owner is pleading guilty to possession of
>firearms as a convicted federal felon.
>>
>>This is incorrect. Mr. Caton hasn't pleaded guilty to
>>anything at this time. As a matter of fact, this charge
>>may be thrown out. I will get more into the "convicted felon"
>>part later
>>
>From what I have found out he is not getting sentenced for
>any FDA violations yet. The issue the FDA had was the product
>lables and ingredient rations. H3O test showed ratios of sulphuric
>acid from 8% to over 14%.
>>
>>H3O [is a] product from a company in California to private label.
>>We received all labeling information from that company,
>>including ingredient listings. Although the H3O does test
>>out analytically as 9.4% sulfuric, it is actually a patented
>>product that has been extensively tested for safety and
>>has OSHA's approval. It is no more corrosive than water,
>>and is not required to have special labeling when shipped.
>>The testing that is required for OSHA proved that it is
>>non-caustic and non-corrosive. We would like to think that
>>the maker of H3O simply misinformed us if the accusations
>>of inconsistencies are true; however, we have seen nothing
>>but successful results in the use of the H3O.
>>
>If any of those in your chat room have an issue. Tell them to contact
>us. We have 3 phone lines. I apologize for the incident. The other
>problem is that Alpha pirated most of the product formulas from other
>companies, now I am trying to resolve that issue.
>>This is a lie.
>>
>> Although not all of our products were developed by
>>Greg Caton, the Cansema Salve was! We never hid the fact
>>that we private labeled (with the original formulator's
>>permission) some of our products like Old Amish Dewormer,
>>Cansema Capsules, Gotas Drops, etc. We have always
>>searched for products that have been shown very effective
>>and have offered those products to our customers at a
>> very low affordable price.
>>
>I believe that the person who developed the formulas should be justly
>copmpensated.
>>
>>The person who has formulated the Cansema Salve IS
>>Greg Caton.
>>
>>If Mr. McAdam is refering to George Ackerson
>>(Greg Caton's former partner) than he has allowed
>>Mr. Ackerson to deceive him. Mr. Ackerson is the reason
>>why Mr. Caton is a convicted felon. It was Mr. Ackerson's
>>idea to conterfiet money and Mr. Caton broke off all
>>contact and disolved the partnership as soon as he was
>>aware of his intentions.
>>
>>However, while Mr. Ackerson was investigated it came
>>out that Mr. Caton knew what Mr. Ackerson planned to do
>>and didn't go to the police. Mr. Caton was arrested for
>> "conspiracy" for not going to the police and [was]
>>released the same day.
>>
>>Although Mr. Caton plead[ed] guilty for knowing what
>>Mr. Ackerson planned to do and disolved the partnership,
>>he failed to notify the authorities. Mr. Caton did not spend
>>any jail time because of it, although he greatly regrets
>>the mistakes he made.
>>
>>So when Mr. Caton formulated the Cansema products
>>Mr. Ackerson was around. He has tried to start his own
>>web site several years ago after he was run out of town
>>(for crimes against a child) and was arrested yet again
>>for child pornography.
>>
>>Yes, Mr. Caton is a convicted felon due to a mistake
>>that he made...the mistake...being partners with
>>Mr. Ackerson and not notifying the authorities.
>>
>I will follow up this e-mail with a call.
>>
>>It drives me crazy that this has turned out to be a
>>mud slinging tournament. However, I will defend
>>the name of the company that has saved my Mother.
>>I started working here shortly after. I admire Greg
>>Caton and the fact that he offers alternatives and
>>options at such a low price.
>>
>>As stated on our web site...If you are concerned with
>>anything or have any questions, simply contact us
>>unlike Mr. McAdam we answer the phone and respond
>>to our emails
we will answer any question that you have.
>>
>>Wishing you good health and happiness,
>>
>>xxxxxxxx
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Well folks on Cancercured, what is your opinion at this stage?
And edgarblythe ...
before you ask why I post under the name of "xxxxx",
it is because I was selling Cansema products in Australia
in a small way, through word-of-mouth recommendations
for the most part, and I did NOT want to give the impression
to this forum that I was attempting to "solicit customers".
Hope that satisfies your unspoken question, xxxxx. :-)