The best musical of all time?

Reply Sat 14 Sep, 2002 06:54 am
Normally, I'm not a huge fan of musicals, but every time Singin' in the Rain is on, I feel compelled to watch it. There's just something about the title song, and the dreamy pitch sequence (with Cyd Charisse) and Debbie Reynolds's chorus girl number, "All I Do is Dream of You" and the silly "Moses Supposes" and and and ...

I also love the dancing. I don't think Gene Kelly was ever better or Donald O'Connor ever funnier (although I wish they could've gotten him a human partner for at least one of the numbers!).

So check out Singin' in the Rain when it's next on TV. Do you have a different choice for the best musical film ever? Very Happy
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Reply Sat 14 Sep, 2002 09:34 am
Best Movie Musicals

"Singin' in the Rain"
2. "The Bandwagon"
Note that Cyd Charisse is in both films opposite the two greatest

dancers in film musicals ever.
3. "An American in Paris"
4. "Gigi"
5. "West Side Story"
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Reply Sat 14 Sep, 2002 06:35 pm
OK- Fred Astaire WAS

the greatest dancer, but I always wanted to look like Cyd Charisse. Can't I vote for her, too?
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Reply Mon 16 Sep, 2002 07:14 am
Phoenix, I think you

really are Cyd Charisse and you are fooling all of us! Actually, I had meant to add Ginger

Rogers to the poll although I kinda, oops, didn't do it correctly. Embarrassed

In the meantime, hello, welcome,

salutations, hey how ya' doin'! jes
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Craven de Kere
Reply Mon 16 Sep, 2002 02:26 pm

I just

added Ginger Rogers. ;-)
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Craven de Kere
Reply Mon 16 Sep, 2002 02:33 pm
BTW I voted for Fred

but Gene was always my very favorite. When I was a kid I wanted to be Gene Kelly and even figured out the most basic move of

tap dancing so I could follow allong at least a bit of the time.

My favorite musicals are (the order can change any


1) Singing in the Rain

2) 7 brides for 7 Brothers

3) My Fair Lady (this could easily be number 1,

it's at least #2 but I'm too lazy to move it up).

<Just realized that I spent more time defending my reason for

not moving it than it would have taken to move it but I remain obstinate>

4) Fantasia 2000



6) West Side Story

7) The Sound of Music

8) Animals are Beautiful People
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Reply Mon 16 Sep, 2002 02:47 pm
Thanks for adding Ms.


The Sound of Music is just fantastic. I love that it's based on a true story (I

love that in pretty much any type of picture) but I also love the thematic music. That is, the underlying currents you get,

like when they're escaping from the Nazis and in the background you hear a subtly altered (pretty nervous-sounding,

actually) version of 'So Long, Farewell' - taking that song out of the realm of cutesie-pie kids' number and turning it

into a real metaphor for departure.

West Side Story should be on pretty much anyone's

short list, far as I'm concerned. It really gives a lot of class to the genre by its connection to Shakespeare. I also think

the Jets and the Sharks are an amazing invention. They really make dancing 'cool' in a way that the scenes in

Hair, for example, didn't seem to accomplish.
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Craven de Kere
Reply Mon 16 Sep, 2002 02:57 pm
Add Hair to my list!

I hate dancing in all but the tap dancing age but Hair was funny!
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Reply Mon 16 Sep, 2002 06:19 pm
It might not be the

greatest, but I loved, "The King and I". The scene where Deborah Kerr teaches Yul Brynner to dance is a gem!
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Craven de Kere
Reply Mon 16 Sep, 2002 06:39 pm
I liked that one as a

kid, dunno how much I'd like it now.

Was Lost Horison Found a musical?
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Reply Wed 25 Sep, 2002 03:28 pm
Where were you as

children? Did nobody watch Mary Poppins?
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Reply Wed 25 Sep, 2002 03:37 pm
I was a young child

when I saw Mary Poppins. And it's hardly ever rerun on TV (at least, around here, that is). But

Singin' in the Rain is shown at times. I mean, Oklahoma isn't

even shown around here. Hmm, I wonder if there would be an audience for a Musical Movies Channel on TV?
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Reply Wed 25 Sep, 2002 04:35 pm


It might not be the greatest, but I loved, "The King and I". The scene where Deborah Kerr

teaches Yul Brynner to dance is a gem!

(phoenix 32890)

I think that there might very well be a

demand for these types of films but wether or not there is, I think that "the king and I" was an amazing film and showed the

world as it was back then. naive and real.

What the world thought of the English at that time was not a good

opinion,with the globalization thing and all, but the portrayal cast forward in the movie was excellent.

what is the

best "musical"you have ever watched?
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Reply Thu 26 Sep, 2002 09:20 am
I think I need to

re-view a lot of these films. I saw a lot of them when I was a teenager/young adult and they weren't 'cool'. But I would

definitely like to see them now (in no particular order) -

* The King and I
* Oklahoma
* 7 brides for 7

* Carousel
* West Side Story
* Singin' in the Rain (but that's been on, so I can pass on it right

* Mary Poppins (was on in the past year)
* Hair
* Gypsy
* My Fair Lady
* A Funny thing Happened on the

Way to the Forum (this is on TV a lot)

I haven't seen Moulin Rouge - any good? It's going to be on pay-per-view and

I'm wondering whether to order it (keep in mind my husband is still in the 'musicals aren't cool' stage, although he will

admire athletic and intricate dancing, such as Gene Kelly in Singin').

Aside from Moulin Rouge, no one seems to want

to do a live-action musical. I realize it must be harder these days to find people who can sing, dance and act (they just

don't churn 'em out like they used to), but here are a few:

* Sarah Jessica Parker
* Matthew Broderick

Nathan Lane
* Bebe Neuwirth
* Donna Murphy
* Bernadette Peters
* Jonathan Pryce

You can probably add

Madonna to the mix, although I don't believe she's sung on Broadway (she was on Broadway or maybe off-Broadway, several

years ago, in David Mamet's play, Speed the Plow).

Plus there must be several hopefuls out there who would play

supporting roles, plus folks who've made their careers on Broadway who would love to break into film.

So, as Andy

Hardy used to say, "Hey kids, let's put on a show!"
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Reply Fri 18 Oct, 2002 12:30 pm
Ross Hunter of the

Rock Hudson/Doris Day comedy fame made a musical of "Lost Horizon" with a rather banal Burt Bacharach score. The sets were

redressed backlot built for "Camelot" and later used in the "Kung Fu" TV series. The costumes were really hilarious -- it

was a box office a critical flop. It does have a following but I don't know how I could seriously place it in a position

other than in the ten worst musicals.
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Reply Sat 26 Oct, 2002 08:27 am
i love love love the old time musicals like Kiss Me, Kate - love that Shakespearian connection. singing dancing witty writing ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Very Happy
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Reply Sat 26 Oct, 2002 09:10 am
"Kiss Me Kate" is one of the best adaptations of a Broadyway musical and to be fair, movie musicals should be divided into adaptations and created for the movies. Curiously, some movie musicals have also found their way to Broadway like "Victor Victoria." In this way, my choices on best musical adaptations of stage versions are:

1. "West Side Story"
2. "Cabaret"
3. "My Fair Lady"
4. "Oliver"
5. "On the Town"
6. "The Music Man"
7. "Finian's Rainbow"
8. "The Sound of Music"
9. "Carousel"
10. "Bells are Ringing"

I'm anxious to see how they bring off "Chicago" and so far it looks good. I've always wondered why "City of Angels" never found its way to the screen as it's about movie making, specifically black-and-white detective film noir.

There's been some great adaptations of Broadway musicals on television:

An oldie: "Wonderful Town" with Rosalind Russell

More recent: "Gypsy" with Bette Midler (better than the film version with Roz). "Annie" (far superior to the John Huston debacle) and now we are going to get "The Music Man" with Mathew Broderick and according to his wife, it's a winner (like her present middrift condition). Ah, well, there is "Sex and the City."
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Reply Sat 26 Oct, 2002 07:44 pm
OOoh, "Brush up your Shakespeare" is probably my Dad's favorite song!
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Reply Sat 26 Oct, 2002 07:52 pm
Jes - i think i love your dad! Very Happy
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Reply Sat 26 Oct, 2002 08:20 pm
Well, he's on vacation with my Mom, so I'll have to tell him when he gets back.
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