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Countdown to the Bombardment of Iran

 
 
oralloy
 
Reply Tue 6 Aug, 2013 07:30 pm

Iran's reactor at Arak will be loaded with fuel summer 2014.

http://www.jpost.com/Iranian-Threat/News/Report-Iran-Arak-facility-to-have-nuclear-weapons-grade-plutonium-by-next-summer-322093

Iran's illegal nuclear program has to be bombed before this happens.
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JTT
 
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Reply Wed 7 Aug, 2013 08:41 am
@oralloy,
If a bombing were to occur that would be, as I have mentioned, another war crime.

The US and Israel have enough war crimes under their belts, US is far and away the leader.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 19 Aug, 2013 04:36 am
Quote:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/images/iran-next.jpg
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 19 Aug, 2013 09:06 am
@oralloy,
You are one sick piece of excrement, Oralboy. I'll bet that you have an Uncle Sam blowup doll that you regularly go down on.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 20 Aug, 2013 09:05 pm
@JTT,

Stop being a jerk. Iran has been asking for this for a very long time.

When Obama finally stomps on them, they are going to make a very satisfying crunch.
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 20 Aug, 2013 09:08 pm
@oralloy,
Do you boink your Uncle Sam doll in the behind or did you buy the cheap model?
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xsevents007
 
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Reply Fri 23 Aug, 2013 07:38 am
@oralloy,
You should know what are you saying. Without knowing that a country really posses nuclesr weapon you cannot coment on such matters.
roger
 
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Reply Fri 23 Aug, 2013 12:19 pm
@xsevents007,
And if you waited till you knew, would you then wait till they used it?
eurocelticyankee
 
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Reply Fri 23 Aug, 2013 12:33 pm
@oralloy,
Remind me again orallie which country did the majority of the 9-11 bombers come from?.

Was it Iran or maybe Iraq?.
eurocelticyankee
 
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Reply Fri 23 Aug, 2013 12:55 pm
@eurocelticyankee,
9-11 hijackers to avoid the pedantic
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engineer
 
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Reply Fri 23 Aug, 2013 12:55 pm
@roger,
roger wrote:

And if you waited till you knew, would you then wait till they used it?

We've waited on South Africa, Israel, Pakistan, India and N. Korea. What's one more?
RABEL222
 
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Reply Fri 23 Aug, 2013 04:26 pm
@engineer,
True.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 24 Aug, 2013 06:50 am
@xsevents007,
xsevents007 wrote:
You should know what are you saying. Without knowing that a country really posses nuclesr weapon you cannot coment on such matters.

I do know. And if Iran does not halt their illegal nuclear weapons program fast, they will be bombed within the next year.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 24 Aug, 2013 06:50 am
@eurocelticyankee,
eurocelticyankee wrote:
orallie

* PLONK *
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 24 Aug, 2013 06:51 am
@engineer,
engineer wrote:
roger wrote:
And if you waited till you knew, would you then wait till they used it?

We've waited on South Africa, Israel, Pakistan, India and N. Korea. What's one more?

Israel, Pakistan, and India have the right to have nuclear weapons.

The entire world has cracked down on North Korea and given them harsh sanctions. The fact that the consequences for North Korea have been so negative has prevented the dissolution of the NPT and a global arms race. Despite that, a nuclear North Korea is still a major and undesirable problem.


If Iran were to develop nuclear weapons, they would become at least as big a problem as North Korea is, even if they get crushed by the same sort of global sanctions that are currently in place against North Korea.

It is plausible, though, that nations like Russia and China will prevent Iran from being crushed by brutal sanctions. In that case, the NPT will cease to exist and states around the world will freely develop nuclear weapons as they please.

The US will have to reverse our arms reductions and build our arsenal back up to Cold War levels in order to deter all the nations of the world simultaneously. A resumption of nuclear testing and the development of more-modern warhead designs will be in order too.

Also, many of our allies will need nuclear weapons of their own (which we will be happy to help them with, considering the state of the world at that point). In particular, we'd likely provide thermonuclear warhead designs to Israel, Poland, Georgia, Japan, South Korea, Australia, and the Philippines.

It will just be a matter of time before someone has a nuclear war somewhere. My guess is that the first large-scale nuclear war in human history will occur between two relatively minor African nations (I don't have any particular candidates in mind).


Barack Obama intends to prevent this from coming to pass.

In addition, Obama gave Israel his assurance that if they held off on bombing Iran themselves, he'd do it himself when the time comes.

It'll soon be time.
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 24 Aug, 2013 09:11 am
@oralloy,
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The US will have to reverse our arms reductions and build our arsenal back up to Cold War levels in order to deter all the nations of the world simultaneously.


You really are one dumb ****, Oralboy. There's already enough nuclear arms, courtesy of the meglomaniac United States, to kill everyone on the planet.

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In particular, we'd likely provide thermonuclear warhead designs to Israel, ... South Korea.


The US has already provided nuclear arms to Israel and South Korea. It has done this because the US is not interested in peace. The US is only interested in provocation, in raping, torturing, napalming, murdering innocents.

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U.S. Deployment of Nuclear Weapons in 1950s South Korea & North Korea's Nuclear Development: Toward Denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula Lee Jae-Bong Abstract:

The United States suffered a serious financial deficit as a result of the Korean War in the 1950s. To solve this problem, it moved to reduce the sizes of US forces in Korea and the South Korean military which depended on U.S. financial aid. As President Rhee Syng-man opposed this plan, the U.S. introduced nuclear weapons into South Korea in January 1958. For this purpose, the UN Command removed NNSC personnel from South Korea in June 1956, and nullified part of the Armistice Agreement in June 1957. As nuclear weapons were deployed in South Korea, North Korea began a massive program of underground construction in the 1960s and deployed its conventional forces in forward positions. North Korea asked the Soviet Union in 1963 and China in 1964 for help in developing nuclear weapons of its own, but was rebuffed. South Korea prepared to develop its own nuclear weapons in 1974 and North Korea began to develop its own program in the late 1970s. North Korea seeks, through development of nuclear weapons, to secure international recognition as well as economic aid and national security. Thus for the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula, provision must be made for North Korea to dismantle its nuclear weapons without a sense of insecurity. In addition, it is unrealistic to urge North Korea to unilaterally dismantle its nuclear weapons without a breakthrough in U.S.-North Korea relations, preparing the withdrawal of US forces in South Korea, eliminating the U.S. nuclear umbrella for South Korea, and abolishing the U.S.-South Korea Alliance.

- See more at: http://www.japanfocus.org/-lee-jae_bong/3053#sthash.ndWkwcxV.dpuf



It's little wonder that the people in the north wanted nuclear weapons. The US has been terrorizing both the north and the south of Korea for over half a century.

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The United States kept tactical nuclear weapons in South Korea for decades before removing them in 1991.

http://thediplomat.com/2012/06/06/no-to-u-s-nukes-in-south-korea/


The US took over the south in the same fashion it tried to take over the south of Vietnam by committing vicious war crimes against the people of the south of Korea.

The US also committed those same vicious war crimes against the people of the north of Korea.

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The Korean War: The “Unknown War”. The Coverup of US War Crimes

By Sherwood Ross
Global Research, March 16, 2011


The Korean War, a.k.a. the “Unknown War,” was, in fact, headline news at the time it was being fought(1950-53). Given the Cold War hatreds of the combatants, though, a great deal of the reportage was propaganda, and much of what should have been told was never told. News of the worst atrocities perpetrated against civilians was routinely suppressed and the full story of the horrific suffering of the Korean people—who lost 3-million souls of a total population of 23-million— has yet to be told in full. Filling in many of the blank spaces is Bruce Cumings, chair of the Department of History at the University of Chicago, whose book “The Korean War”(Modern Library Chronicles) takes an objective look at the conflict. In one review, Publishers Weekly says, “In this devastating work he shows how little the U.S. knew about who it was fighting, why it was fighting, and even how it was fighting.

Though the North Koreans had a reputation for viciousness, according to Cumings, U.S. soldiers actually engaged in more civilian massacres. This included dropping over half a million tons of bombs and thousands of tons of napalm, more than was loosed on the entire Pacific theater in World War II, almost indiscriminately. The review goes on to say, “Cumings deftly reveals how Korea was a clear precursor to Vietnam: a divided country, fighting a long anti-colonial war with a committed and underestimated enemy; enter the U.S., efforts go poorly, disillusionment spreads among soldiers, and lies are told at top levels in an attempt to ignore or obfuscate a relentless stream of bad news. For those who like their truth unvarnished, Cumings’s history will be a fresh, welcome take on events that seemed to have long been settled.”

Interviewed in two one-hour installments by Lawrence Velvel, Dean of the Massachusetts School of Law at Andover, producers of Comcast’s “Books of Our Time” with the first installment being shown on Sunday, March 20th, Cumings said U.S. coverage of the war was badly slanted. Hanson Baldwin, the military correspondent for The New York Times, described “North Koreans as locusts, like Nazis, like vermin, who come shrieking on. I mean, this is really hard stuff to read in an era when you don’t get away with that kind of thinking anymore.” Cumings adds, “Rapes were extremely common. Koreans in the South will still say that that was one of the worst things of the war (was how)many American soldiers were raping Korean women.”

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-korean-war-the-unknown-war-the-coverup-of-us-war-crimes/23742
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 25 Aug, 2013 04:05 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
oralloy wrote:
The US will have to reverse our arms reductions and build our arsenal back up to Cold War levels in order to deter all the nations of the world simultaneously.

There's already enough nuclear arms, courtesy of the meglomaniac United States, to kill everyone on the planet.

No, not even close. Not anymore.

If the NPT fails, we're going to have to build our arsenal back up.

But no need to worry. Obama will bomb Iran. The NPT will be saved. And the world will continue on its path to disarmament.


JTT wrote:
oralloy wrote:
In particular, we'd likely provide thermonuclear warhead designs to Israel, ... South Korea.

The US has already provided nuclear arms to Israel and South Korea.

Israel developed their atomic weapons with help from France. The US had nothing to do with it.

To this date, South Korea has never possessed nuclear weapons of any sort, and Israel has never possessed thermonuclear weapons.


I imagine the capability to manufacture the W87-0 would be particularly interesting for a small nuclear power. That design achieves a decent yield (300kt) with both a lightweight compact design AND minimal use of weapons-grade materials.

When it comes to thermonuclear warheads, it turns out that it is actually possible to have your cake and eat it too (at least if your design is advanced enough).
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 26 Aug, 2013 08:42 am
@oralloy,
That's all the world needs is a bigger meglomaniacal United States egged on by insane blobs of excrement, Oralboy.

Odd how you read right past further proof that the US has long, and in every case, targeted civilians. The US is the grand rogue nation of all time.

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U.S. soldiers actually engaged in more civilian massacres. This included dropping over half a million tons of bombs and thousands of tons of napalm, more than was loosed on the entire Pacific theater in World War II, almost indiscriminately. The review goes on to say, “Cumings deftly reveals how Korea was a clear precursor to Vietnam: a divided country, fighting a long anti-colonial war with a committed and underestimated enemy; enter the U.S., efforts go poorly, disillusionment spreads among soldiers, and lies are told at top levels in an attempt to ignore or obfuscate a relentless stream of bad news.
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