I'm not het up - you're reading that into what I'm saying because you dislike being wrong, or at least acknowledging your blindspot.
Not at all. So far you haven't shown me any blind spots, nor any 'wrong' thoughts. What we have it seems, is a difference of opinion about life in general, and where and when people should take responsibility for themselves. My view is that adults always should.
Do you think you could take responsibility for your life if you'd been fucked up the arse since you were 4? That all the adults you grew up knowing suffered a generational disconnect with a happy purposeful life? That none of them ever had a job, and had no prospects of getting one? That hated their lives so much the only coping mechanisms were substance abuse and suicide? If an alien race came to your town and said 'Right you won't be sleeping in houses any more and there'll be none of this working for a wage business, forget schools, we'll take your kids and teach them how things work now?'
That quote by itself could be the topic of a whole thread.
In life, there are contributing circumstances, and there is self responsibility.
In terms of self responsibility :
The answer to 'do I think I could take responsibility' is :
-As an adult, yes : you are the sole person who is responsible for your life - no one else is. Absolutely no one else can think for you, and it's impossible for anyone else to choose your actions (restrict yes, choose no), so in the end, not matter how tough your life has been, whether you like it or not, only you & I retain responsibility for what we think, and for our actions. People who fight against this have an uphill battle to fight against themselves.
Once you take responsibility for yourself, you start thinking 'all right I have this problem, how do I fix it' and 'I want this, so how do I go about developing the skills to get it'. You start thinking 'I've been in a bit of conflict recently - how can I handle them better'. You recognise a fear that no longer serves you and you go 'how do I go about overcoming this fear and acquiring habits that help me be better' etc...you do this because you realise that you are entirely responsible for your own life.
As a child, in terms of taking responsibility for yourself, the lines are greyer, for outside influences are greater, and independence hasn't yet truly been achieved.
In terms of contributing cirumstances, and self responsibility :
The answer to 'do I think it would be difficult' re the examples you provided - yes, many incredibly so.
In terms of our aboriginal population, they battle uphill, much more so than white Australia.
You mentioned :
- disconnected parents (addressed by what I suggested as a solution)
- joblessness (eventually addressed by what I suggested as a solution).
In terms of :
If an alien race came to your town and said 'Right you won't be sleeping in houses any more and there'll be none of this working for a wage business, forget schools, we'll take your kids and teach them how things work now?'
I'd like to answer this, but the solution reasoning is long winded.
I love that you think there has been no discrimination in the last 35 years. Wishing it were so doesn't make it true.
Jumping to conclusions again - I was talking govt, and as a generalisation.
- from the legislative branch it's not necessarily true - individual politicians aren't always bound by govt policy
- from the executive branch it's true as a generalisation, for govt policy follows the Acts. As a specific incident scenario - people work in govt - so there will be cases where it is not true
- from the Judicial Branch, there's actually been examples where judges have gone lighter on them
I agree the solutions (or at least reparations) are multigenerational but if you can't see/acknowledge how much damage has already been done and how far behind the starting line these communities are, and you think putting solutions in place that would work for economically disadvantaged urban white kids is going to work in remote indigenous communities you are sadly blindfolded.
I did mention 'boarding scholarships' did I not? Sending then, voluntarily, to boarding schools - that obviously does not occur in the remote communities (there is already a limited amount of this going on)
how do you deliver intergenerational solutions in that environment?
Did I not say that govt was short sighted?
The fact that you think you have the solution shows me how little you know what you're talking about in this area.
Again - one of the great frustrations of people criticising govt's response to the problem is that they do not themselves, offer a workable solution.
Criticise my idea all you like, but it's meaningless until you come up with a workable solution yourself.
I understand your belief in self-responsibility - I have it too - but ask yourself how you got yours.
There's a difference between intellectual understanding, and accepting it as true. Accepting it as true changes your attitudes about so many things in life. No longer is there 'he/she made me mad/angry etc', nor is there blame, nor is there envy, and you start seeing others as responsible for their actions - while recognising the contributing circumstances. You start understanding strengths and weaknesses (both in yourself and in others). And as you start understanding how strengths and weaknesses work (and the contributing circumstances that went into developing them), condescension starts lessening, and empathy starts increasing (empathy doesn't mean you can't be firm by the way). And accepting this in no way makes you perfect. In fact - if you started believing that, you will have moved away from understanding self responsibility.
I do notice that you are continuing to jump to many conclusions about what I think, and continue to attack. You could ask yourself why you do both. You could ask yourself why, when faced with not enough information, you don't go 'so when you say ### do you mean XXXX and are you aware of YYY ?'