We Have No Privacy, We Are Always Being Watched.

I agree. He is, by no means, a hero, anymore that Pvt Manning is.

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I agree. He is, by no means, a hero, anymore that Pvt Manning is.

Hero or not a hero I am glad he let the cat out of the bag and warn the American citizens of the kind of total surveillance society that is on it way.

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Spendius...why do you try so hard? Are the guys at the Pub giving you too much ****?

I'm not out of first gear. The guys at the pub fixed my fridge at half the price the experts wanted, delivered me my annual ton of cow ****, put my bets on for me, serviced my Atco lawnmower for the sheer joy of working on a class piece of engineering and laugh at my jokes. Often nervously.

Nobody has a Constitution. They are in the way of a delusion. Like a comforter which is not a tit.

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Can you give me three good reasons why I should choose the latter?

1--It costs a lot less.

2--It makes more sense.

3--It's not scary.

Do you wan't a few more?

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Bill is simply wrong here.

Still marking your own exam paper I see. It sure is simple to say that Bill is simply wrong. In fact it is so simple that little kids can do it. Even in the pram.

A democracy which makes or even effectively prepares for modern, scientific war must necessarily cease to be democratic. No country can be really well prepared for modern war unless it is governed by a tyrant, at the head of a highly trained and perfectly obedient bureaucracy.

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A democracy which makes or even effectively prepares for modern, scientific war must necessarily cease to be democratic. No country can be really well prepared for modern war unless it is governed by a tyrant, at the head of a highly trained and perfectly obedient bureaucracy.

Aldous Huxley.

That is why I should trust Bill's opinions over those of the Supreme Court?

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That is why I should trust Bill's opinions over those of the Supreme Court?

You do know the 1917 law that allow the government to put in prison for ten years such people as a movie director for the crime of showing British soldier acting badly in our revolution was and even people for privately expressing opinions to friends have never repeat never been found unconstitutional?

As far as the body of rulings of the SC are concern such a law could be pass tomorrow over our war on terror.

So when you find yourself sitting in a prison cell for expressing the wrong opinions on able2know concerning the war of terror please tell me how must you trust the SC.

I trust the Supreme Court a hell of a lot more than I trust your opinion,

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I trust the Supreme Court a hell of a lot more than I trust your opinion,

An you trust them due to their long history of not protecting the bill of rights and allowing people to be thrown into prison for expressing opinions?

Yes as Firefly would said if it had not happen within the last 24 hours past behaviors do not matter.

It is interesting, though, that you would actually be arguing that I should be trusting YOU more than the Justices of the Supreme Court.

It is interesting, though, that you would actually be arguing that I should be trusting YOU more than the Justices of the Supreme Court.

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It is interesting, though, that you would actually be arguing that I should be trusting YOU more than the Justices of the Supreme Court.

I had never rule that it is ok under the constitution to put people into prison for ten years for doing such things as questioning the wisdom of fighting a war or making a movie that show a war allies in a bad light and so on while the institution you are so trusting of have done.

Not only done but had never rule in any case that had come befoe them that to do so once more would be unconstitutional.

In fact all the body of their past rulings would indicate that such laws would be constitutional in the court opinion.

So I am so happy that you have such a high level of trust in them over me..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center

Utah Data Center
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The Utah Data Center will gather data from intercepted satellite communications and underwater ocean cables. Analysts will decipher, analyse and store the information in order to spot potential national security threats. The facility will be heavily fortified with backup generators and powerful equipment to keep the vast computer network cool.
The Utah Data Center, also known as the Intelligence Community Comprehensive National Cybersecurity Initiative Data Center,[1] is a data storage facility for the United States Intelligence Community that is designed to store extremely large amounts of data.[2][3][4] Its purpose is to support the Comprehensive National Cybersecurity Initiative (CNCI), though its precise mission is classified.[5] The National Security Agency (NSA), which will lead operations at the facility, is the executive agent for the Director of National Intelligence.[6] It is located at Camp Williams, near Bluffdale, Utah, between Utah Lake and Great Salt Lake.
Contents [hide]
1 Purpose
2 Structure
3 See also
4 References
5 External links
Purpose[edit]



Utah Data Center, Bluffdale, Utah
The data center is alleged to be able to process "all forms of communication, including the complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls, and Internet searches, as well as all sorts of personal data trails—parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital 'pocket litter'."[3] In response to claims that the data center would be used to illegally monitor emails of U.S. citizens, a NSA spokesperson said, "Many unfounded allegations have been made about the planned activities of the Utah Data Center, ... one of the biggest misconceptions about NSA is that we are unlawfully listening in on, or reading emails of, U.S. citizens. This is simply not the case."[6]
In April 2009, officials at the United States Department of Justice acknowledged that the NSA had engaged in large-scale "overcollection" of domestic communications in excess of the federal intelligence court's authority, but claimed that the acts were unintentional and had since been rectified.[7]
In August 2012, The New York Times published short documentaries by independent filmmakers entitled The Program,[8] based on interviews with a whistleblower named William Binney, a designer of the NSA's Stellar Wind project. The project had been designed for foreign signals intelligence (SIGINT) collection but, Binney alleged, after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, controls that limited unintentional collection of data pertaining to U.S. citizens were removed, prompting concerns by him and others that the actions were illegal and unconstitutional. Binney alleged that the Bluffdale facility was designed to store a broad range of domestic communications for data mining without warrants.[9]
Documents leaked to the media in June 2013 described PRISM, a national security electronic surveillance program operated by the NSA, as enabling in-depth surveillance on live Internet communications and stored information.[10][11] Reports linked the data center to the NSA's controversial expansion of activities, which store extremely large amounts of data. Privacy and civil liberties advocates raised concerns about the unique capabilities that such a facility would give to intelligence agencies.[12][13]
The UDC is expected to store Internet data as well as phone records from the controversial NSA call database when it opens in 2013.[14]
Structure[edit]

The planned structure is 1 million or 1.5 million square feet,[4][2][15] 100,000 square feet of data center space and greater than 900,000 square feet of technical support and administrative space,[3][4] and it is projected to cost from $1.5 billion[16][17][5] to $2 billion when finished in September 2013.[3][4] One report suggested that it will cost another $2 billion for hardware, software, and maintenance.[4] The completed facility is expected to require 65 megawatts, costing about $40 million per year.[3][4]
See also[edit]

Utah portal
Government of the United States portal
Intelligence portal
Cryptography portal
Big Data
Cyberethics
Electronic Communications Privacy Act
FISA Amendments Act of 2008
PRISM (surveillance program)
Privacy Law
Secrecy of Correspondence
Electronic Frontier Foundation
References

We the government so trust us damn it and if you dare not to we will pass laws that will result in your imprisonment for ten years if you expressed those doubts and you better not even talk in your sleep.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center

Utah Data Center
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The Utah Data Center will gather data from intercepted satellite communications and underwater ocean cables. Analysts will decipher, analyse and store the information in order to spot potential national security threats. The facility will be heavily fortified with backup generators and powerful equipment to keep the vast computer network cool.
The Utah Data Center, also known as the Intelligence Community Comprehensive National Cybersecurity Initiative Data Center,[1] is a data storage facility for the United States Intelligence Community that is designed to store extremely large amounts of data.[2][3][4] Its purpose is to support the Comprehensive National Cybersecurity Initiative (CNCI), though its precise mission is classified.[5] The National Security Agency (NSA), which will lead operations at the facility, is the executive agent for the Director of National Intelligence.[6] It is located at Camp Williams, near Bluffdale, Utah, between Utah Lake and Great Salt Lake.
Contents [hide]
1 Purpose
2 Structure
3 See also
4 References
5 External links
Purpose[edit]



Utah Data Center, Bluffdale, Utah
The data center is alleged to be able to process "all forms of communication, including the complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls, and Internet searches, as well as all sorts of personal data trails—parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital 'pocket litter'."[3] In response to claims that the data center would be used to illegally monitor emails of U.S. citizens, a NSA spokesperson said, "Many unfounded allegations have been made about the planned activities of the Utah Data Center, ... one of the biggest misconceptions about NSA is that we are unlawfully listening in on, or reading emails of, U.S. citizens. This is simply not the case."[6]
In April 2009, officials at the United States Department of Justice acknowledged that the NSA had engaged in large-scale "overcollection" of domestic communications in excess of the federal intelligence court's authority, but claimed that the acts were unintentional and had since been rectified.[7]
In August 2012, The New York Times published short documentaries by independent filmmakers entitled The Program,[8] based on interviews with a whistleblower named William Binney, a designer of the NSA's Stellar Wind project. The project had been designed for foreign signals intelligence (SIGINT) collection but, Binney alleged, after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, controls that limited unintentional collection of data pertaining to U.S. citizens were removed, prompting concerns by him and others that the actions were illegal and unconstitutional. Binney alleged that the Bluffdale facility was designed to store a broad range of domestic communications for data mining without warrants.[9]
Documents leaked to the media in June 2013 described PRISM, a national security electronic surveillance program operated by the NSA, as enabling in-depth surveillance on live Internet communications and stored information.[10][11] Reports linked the data center to the NSA's controversial expansion of activities, which store extremely large amounts of data. Privacy and civil liberties advocates raised concerns about the unique capabilities that such a facility would give to intelligence agencies.[12][13]
The UDC is expected to store Internet data as well as phone records from the controversial NSA call database when it opens in 2013.[14]
Structure[edit]

The planned structure is 1 million or 1.5 million square feet,[4][2][15] 100,000 square feet of data center space and greater than 900,000 square feet of technical support and administrative space,[3][4] and it is projected to cost from $1.5 billion[16][17][5] to $2 billion when finished in September 2013.[3][4] One report suggested that it will cost another $2 billion for hardware, software, and maintenance.[4] The completed facility is expected to require 65 megawatts, costing about $40 million per year.[3][4]
See also[edit]

Utah portal
Government of the United States portal
Intelligence portal
Cryptography portal
Big Data
Cyberethics
Electronic Communications Privacy Act
FISA Amendments Act of 2008
PRISM (surveillance program)
Privacy Law
Secrecy of Correspondence
Electronic Frontier Foundation
References

After reading this...and after considering that JTT is with you on this...

...I AM EVEN HAPPIER!