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Facebook's new privacy rules reduce users' privacy, says EFF

 
 
Thomas
 
Reply Thu 10 Dec, 2009 02:49 pm
What do Facebook's recent changes in their privacy policy mean for its users? Since a good number of A2Kers also have Facebook accounts, this affects many of us, including yours truly. If you are one of the affected, you may be interested to learn that the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) has reviewed the change. The EFF basically serves as a Cyberspace version of the ACLU, although the two organizations are are not directly related. They've been doing some very good work keeping cyber-businesses honest. And alas, as they're looking at Facebook, they aren't liking what they see:

In their blog, the EFF wrote:
Our conclusion? These new "privacy" changes are clearly intended to push Facebook users to publicly share even more information than before. Even worse, the changes will actually reduce the amount of control that users have over some of their personal data.

Not to say that many of the changes aren't good for privacy. But other changes are bad, while a few are just plain ugly.

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Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Thu 10 Dec, 2009 02:52 pm
@Thomas,
Summary: They are introducing new privacy controls but when asking you to set the privacy controls are defaulting everything to public.

My conclusion: They are just trying to make their status updates more public like twitter. If you don't want that kind of thing don't use their default suggested settings.
eoe
 
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Reply Thu 10 Dec, 2009 02:59 pm
I flipped everything back to my original privacy settings, an option FB gives you. What they may be counting on tho is the 100's of 1000's who won't take the time to do that or won't care. Shocked (can you imagine"???)
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 10 Dec, 2009 03:03 pm
@Robert Gentel,
One of my accounts defaulted to their new settings, the other to my old settings (quite private). It was an interesting thing to see.
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Thomas
 
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Reply Thu 10 Dec, 2009 03:04 pm
Robert Gentel wrote:
If you don't want that kind of thing don't use their default suggested settings.

Except when they don't let you. There is some information that users used to control, that Facebook has now changed into "public information", and for which they're not offering a switch to make it private again. See the article's section on "The Ugly".
ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 10 Dec, 2009 03:14 pm
@Thomas,
I put the link up on my page - maybe move to my status later.

ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 10 Dec, 2009 03:17 pm
@Thomas,
turns out that the settings they say are hard to find and manage aren't so hard to find and manage. just took me about 20 seconds to fix that little "ugly"
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Thomas
 
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Reply Thu 10 Dec, 2009 03:21 pm
@ehBeth,
Brilliant idea! I stole it immediately -- without giving you credit, of course!
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Thu 10 Dec, 2009 03:35 pm
The minute you sign up for "apps" all your data becomes public domain.
I have started to ignore all apps - sorry Cafe World people....and will not
engage in any future apps.
eoe
 
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Reply Thu 10 Dec, 2009 04:09 pm
@CalamityJane,
Me too.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 10 Dec, 2009 04:29 pm
Had this open in a tab, will plonk before closing:

http://www.thestandard.com/news/2009/12/10/facebooks-new-privacy-settings-5-things-you-should-know
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Thu 10 Dec, 2009 04:31 pm
I don't put anything on Facebook or anywhere else on the internet that I don't mind being seen by others/strangers. I am in complete control of that regardless of what any social network or app does to provide security/privacy.

I make use of the privacy settings and other account settings to filter what gets put on my wall from others, and to filter/block the publicity of the usage tracking that is spit out to the walls of others. That's where I feel I have very little customized control. It seems to be an all or nothing choice on what most people and apps are allowed to pollute our walls with and still allow them to function.
CalamityJane
 
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Reply Thu 10 Dec, 2009 04:48 pm
@Butrflynet,
Well it's not that easy with everyone, Butrflynet. Some of us don't want
employees, students etc. to see what their superiors are doing/writing privately
with friends.
I also don't want any consumer guides being able to tap into anything without my prior approval. Simply being a fan of a certain group can put you into a category you don't want to be associated with in actuality. A simple app as
the "Mafia" can get you into the public eye and would you want a prospective
employer have a look at your Mafia activity? (This is just an example, I don't
know if you indeed are playing on the "Mafia" game).
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Fri 11 Dec, 2009 08:44 am
I have a doctor's appointment so I'll mull over the Facebook rules when I come back. Didn't give it too much thought when it recommended the latest rules as default.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Fri 11 Dec, 2009 09:07 am
Everyone make sure that they look through ALL their privacy settings again -
some of them I had marked "for friends only" were all of a sudden "for everyone to see" and those were not the settings that popped up initially
with the privacy changes.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 11 Dec, 2009 10:12 pm
Still not a facebook user (although maybe I am, as I checked a couple of people's photos. Egads..)

http://www.crn.com/security/222001804;jsessionid=ZGY5T35RXTOU1QE1GHPCKHWATMY32JVN
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Sat 12 Dec, 2009 06:15 am
@CalamityJane,
Going to check my settings again. I personally do not use any of the apps any more and ignore requests from people for their apps. I have never use mafia wars and I actually find it quite annoying to see so much activity of others on this.

Wait, I just remembered that I can hide certain apps etc. Thanks for making me thing of this.
CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sat 12 Dec, 2009 10:44 am
@Intrepid,
Yes Intrepid, you can hide them.

One thing I was pleased with facebook is, that they didn't seem to change
any settings with minors. My daughter (14) has a facebook account and as
I was to check her account and change it back to privacy settings, I noticed
that nothing was changed from the original privacy setting. So that's a relief
to see as most kids don't bother with such settings.
Intrepid
 
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Reply Sat 12 Dec, 2009 12:16 pm
@CalamityJane,
I checked mine and they were not changed either. I am much older than 14. Laughing

I had forgotten that I had already hidden that dreaded Mafia Wars so I didn't have to see what the folks who enjoy that kind of thing were doing.
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Sat 12 Dec, 2009 04:08 pm
The wizard script had all my settings defaulting to the old settings. If I wanted the new settings, I had to purposely choose them. After closing it, I checked again the next day and all my settings are still as they were before -- my old settings, which were to share only with designated customized groups of my friends or with no one else.

The new privacy settings had no effect on my account and I didn't have to reset anything.
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