@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:It is immaterial to me whether or not you accept me as an authority.
There 's a dubious proposition.
Setanta wrote:Even if your fanciful version of the origin of bigot were true,
that would be no good reason to be one.
I tend to agree with that,
tho its no big deal in my hierarchy of values.
I have been
anti-commie, in the extreme, but not anti-Russian, especially.
In my years, I 've had commies, nazies, liberals, and bigots as friends.
Setanta wrote: However, i have in the past referred to other authority,
and have not made the claim on my own authority.
It seems to me
that
YOUR cited authority supports
me better than
YOU.
Let 's examine it:
Origin of the word bigot at the Online Etymological dictionary--note particularly:
Quote:Earliest French use of the word is as the name of a people
apparently in southern Gaul, which led to the now-doubtful,
The word: "doubtful" addresses uncertainty,
as distinct from successful refutation.
Quote:on phonetic grounds, theory that the word comes from Visigothus.
The typical use in Old French seems to have been as a derogatory nickname for Normans,
the old theory (not ` universally accepted)
being that it springs from their frequent use of the Germanic oath bi God.
That acknowledgement appears to offer some evidence
in support of the concept of the recalcitrant Viking,
refusing to smooch the Royal foot of the King of England.
(Perhaps u disagree with his bigoted choice ?)
Quote: But OED dismisses in a three-exclamation-mark fury
one fanciful version of the "by god" theory as "absurdly incongruous with facts." (emphasis added)
THAT sounds like one emotionally frustrated
liberal lexicografer,
as distinct from a dispassionate analyst of etymological source.
If someone elects to write a dictionary, that does not operate
to extinguish his ideological passions; (it did not in
THIS case).
Setanta wrote:I can't believe you're still attempting to peddle that bullshit after all these years,
Believe what u want.
Setanta wrote: but more incredible is your continuing attempt to defend being a bigot.
My values don't co-incide with yours. I 'm no liberal.
Tho I tend, mildly, to agree with your assertion
(hereinabove set forth) that there is no need to join them,
its not a big deal to me, the same as u don't relish the freedom
of everyone to bear arms in his or her personal defense
from the predatory violence of man or beast.
We value different principles.
For instance, altho I have never suffered at the hands
of the Japs, others have, and I can see their resentment
or hatred of them, possibly, tho I don't personally join in it.
I have known Jews who resent or hate the Germen;
I deem that to be reasonable, understandable n honorable.
Everyone has the natural right and the Constitutional Right
to love or to hate anyone or anything that he wants
to love or to hate (or any other emotion).
I respect everyone 's right to his own opinion
and to express his opinion, including hate speech
(as distinct from inciting a riot or an assassination)
and including speech based on any other emotion
of the speaker's choice.
David
