Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you?

I do not know what countless is but I do know that more did than Christians did.

Start with thjs Inquisition and go from there.

10,000 in just one city + + + +

Statistics[edit]
Beginning in the 19th century, historians have gradually compiled statistics drawn from the surviving court records, from which estimates have been calculated by adjusting the recorded number of convictions by the average rate of document loss for each time period. Gustav Henningsen and Jaime Contreras studied the records of the Spanish Inquisition, which list 44,674 cases of which 826 resulted in executions in person and 778 in effigy (i.e. a straw dummy was burned in place of the person).[51] William Monter estimated there were 1000 executions between 1530–1630 and 250 between 1630–1730.[52] Jean-Pierre Dedieu studied the records of Toledo's tribunal, which put 12,000 people on trial.[53] For the period prior to 1530, Henry Kamen estimated there were about 2,000 executions in all of Spain's tribunals.[54] Italian Renaissance history professor and Inquisition expert Carlo Ginzburg had his doubts about using statistics to reach a judgment about the period. “In many cases, we don’t have the evidence, the evidence has been lost,” said Ginzburg.[55]

And you do? LOL Have you ever studied what constitutes brain death?

· Jesus of Nazareth underwent Jewish and Roman trials, was flogged,
and was sentenced to death by crucifixion. The scourging produced deep
stripelike lacerations and appreciable blood loss, and it probably set the
stage for hypovolemic shock as evidenced by the fact that Jesus was too
weakened to carry the crossbar (patibulum) to Golgotha. At the site of
crucifixion his wrists were nailed to the patibulum, and after the patibulum
was lifted onto the upright post, (stipes) his feet were nailed to the stipes.
The major pathophysiologic effect of crucifixion was an interference with
normal respirations. Accordingly, death resulted primarily from hypovolemic
shock and exhaustion asphyxia. Jesus’ death was ensured by the thrust of a
soldier’s spear into his side. Modern medical interpretation of the historical
evidence indicates that Jesus was dead when taken down from the cross.
(JAMA 1986; 255:1455-1463)

JAMA: The Journal of the American Medical Association is a peer-reviewed medical journal published 48 times a year by the American Medical Association. It publishes original research, reviews, and editorials covering all aspects of the biomedical sciences. The journal was established in 1883 with Nathan Smith Davis as the founding editor. The journal's current editor-in-chief is Howard Bauchner of Boston University, who succeeded Catherine DeAngelis on July 1, 2011.[1]

Humans have created many amazing things and that includes weapons that can destroy this planet

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I don't believe in any god and how people wish to die for their God is not of my business

some of those people were dying by being fed to the Lions very close to the time of the resurrection. Many of them knew the eyewitnesses some of them maybe even where Eyewitnesses. This is a God that people saw and listened to.. it doesn't take much faith to believe eyewitness accounts.

I don't understand why you are unwilling to believe eyewitness accounts from 2000 years ago but, you are willing to take on faith that all the complexity you observe happened by random processes millions and millions of years ago with no witnesses, and no evidence except at the complexity exist and it had a come from somewhere other than God because you don't want to believe in him.

But we even have a witness to how all this complexity was put in place because, the God that created it all entered the universe as a man and told us he did it and how he did it. Why are you assuming Jesus and his followers are liars and irrational.

Greatest I am,
You said, "If you did nit inherit your God from mommy and daddy, then please tell us why you chose a genocidal son murderer instead of a moral God."
Without references others, can you tell me what do you consider a moral God?


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Greatest I am,
You said, "If you did nit inherit your God from mommy and daddy, then please tell us why you chose a genocidal son murderer instead of a moral God."
Without references others, can you tell me what do you consider a moral God?


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Greatest I am

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I do not know what countless is but I do know that more did than Christians did.

Start with thjs Inquisition and go from there.

10,000 in just one city + + + +

Wiki

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Statistics[edit]
Beginning in the 19th century, historians have gradually compiled statistics drawn from the surviving court records, from which estimates have been calculated by adjusting the recorded number of convictions by the average rate of document loss for each time period. Gustav Henningsen and Jaime Contreras studied the records of the Spanish Inquisition, which list 44,674 cases of which 826 resulted in executions in person and 778 in effigy (i.e. a straw dummy was burned in place of the person).[51] William Monter estimated there were 1000 executions between 1530–1630 and 250 between 1630–1730.[52] Jean-Pierre Dedieu studied the records of Toledo's tribunal, which put 12,000 people on trial.[53] For the period prior to 1530, Henry Kamen estimated there were about 2,000 executions in all of Spain's tribunals.[54] Italian Renaissance history professor and Inquisition expert Carlo Ginzburg had his doubts about using statistics to reach a judgment about the period. “In many cases, we don’t have the evidence, the evidence has been lost,” said Ginzburg.[55]

Sometimes men die for beliefs that are wrong. Sometimes men kill for beliefs that are wrong. God knows their hearts, and he is looking for people that yearn to live within God's will for eternity in peace, love.

This life is where we learn which group we belong in. The group yearning to live in the peace and love of God's will for eternity or the group that wants to be their own god, and never seek his will which always eventually leads to spiritual death for eternity. It sounds like you yearn for peace and love, now you just need to understand God's will for your life and live it. He is real. Why not just try not fighting him and instead try to understand His will for your life? Don't worry about the inquisitions. Don't worry about the genocide. The people that lived and died in the past will be judged according to their hearts and some are in eternal bliss already. Why don't you prepare to join them?

It doesn't need to say anything about "creative thought." That's all part and parcel of evolution. Here's a short list of intelligent animals on this planet. Most Intelligent Animals on Earth
Chimpanzees. Chimpanzees and humans are remarkably similar, sharing about 99 percent of our DNA. ...
Bottlenose Dolphins. ...
Elephants. ...
African Grey Parrots. ...
Rats. ...
Crows. ...
Dogs. ...
Pigeons.

Some times, it seems like dogs are more intelligent than some humans.

Your link proves nothing. Young children are able to play musical instruments like the violin that takes good skill and memory. They can solve math problems, read about history, learn about chemistry, and produce their own thinking on many subjects.

One who punishes the guilty and not the innocent.

See my last post above and remember who would advocate such an immoral policy. Satan, not a God.

You're probably right, but how do you determine the guilty? What standard would you use to to make such a determination?
What about the guilty? Is there no forgiveness for them and if you do just forgive them where is the justice in that? It seems right and wrong would become a blurry gray area- let's just choose to forgive them- it won't matter what they did.

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It doesn't need to say anything about "creative thought." That's all part and parcel of evolution.